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#634260 - 01/03/21 07:02 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: Calmeraie]
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I guess so... Language barrier.

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#634798 - 01/06/21 05:29 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: TRYUK]
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I got the crashing with the errors above (the unversioned libssl dylib as it does not have a stable ABI) ... I downloaded the app again (i.e. Band-in-a-Box 2019 Mega (Mac)) and the app started but with the tasty pink/purple ... OS 11.1, iMac (Retina 5K, 27 inch, late 2015), 4 Ghz Quad-core Intel Core i&, 32 Gb 1867 MHz DDR3, graphics: AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4 GB

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#635582 - 01/10/21 01:03 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: TRYUK]
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Has anyone else noticed that if you render audio as .m4a without the lead in, the outputted file still contains the 2 bar lead in on the track? It didn't do this before as I have done this many times, but I cannot remember if this was before the Big Sur update.
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#636046 - 01/12/21 03:10 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: TRYUK]
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Originally Posted By: TRYUK
Has anyone else noticed that if you render audio as .m4a without the lead in, the outputted file still contains the 2 bar lead in on the track? It didn't do this before as I have done this many times, but I cannot remember if this was before the Big Sur update.


I think this was fixed in a previous build update - which version are you using, and what build number (from Help > About, 3 digit number after "Version 20xx").
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#636050 - 01/12/21 03:15 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: Simon - PG Music]
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It is version 2020 (421)

I posted about the first issue with BiaB after the Big Sur upgrade on the 13/11/2020. Others have been finding other problems as the weeks go on. It is now 2 months since the first problem was posted by me, followed by others, and still more are coming to light. Surely there could be a build update that took care of at least some of these problems?


Edited by TRYUK (01/13/21 07:44 AM)
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#636204 - 01/13/21 08:32 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: TRYUK]
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Originally Posted By: TRYUK
It is version 2020 (421)

I posted about the first issue with BiaB after the Big Sur upgrade on the 13/11/2020. Others have been finding other problems as the weeks go on. It is now 2 months since the first problem was posted by me, followed by others, and still more are coming to light. Surely there could be a build update that took care of at least some of these problems?


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#636308 - 01/13/21 09:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: CrvsCrx]
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I use iReal on MacOS too. I have used BIAB for over twenty years and I love the program. But between having to pay so much for upgrades each year to stay current on new versions of MacOS, and the long delay in BIAB working well on new operating systems I am seriously considering removing it and going with iReal. BIAB is a far superior product, but I just use it for play along to practise improvising, not performances or recording, so I could live with the more restrictive combos and patterns on iReal. Staying with BIAB means I pay a lot of money every year for functions that I don't really use. I dread to think how much I have paid over the years. Thousands of dollars, I suspect.

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#636316 - 01/13/21 11:59 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: TRYUK]
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Originally Posted By: TRYUK
I posted about the first issue with BiaB after the Big Sur upgrade on the 13/11/2020. Others have been finding other problems as the weeks go on. It is now 2 months since the first problem was posted by me, followed by others, and still more are coming to light. Surely there could be a build update that took care of at least some of these problems?


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#636356 - 01/14/21 07:41 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: TRYUK]
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I can't see any sheet music now in Big Sur. Any idea when this is going to be addressed or workaround? I need to finish a project and stuck with no usable BIAB...

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#636367 - 01/14/21 08:42 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: KeithR]
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For IOS devices, MTH Jazz PLay Along on App store.

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#636439 - 01/14/21 05:45 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: TRYUK]
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To enable dual boot on a T2 equipped Mac, one needs to change some Security settings first.

T2 Security Settings
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#636753 - 01/16/21 07:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: TRYUK]
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Seems ominous... Still talking about a dual boot on Macs to load Catalina to run BIAB going into the end of January. Still no patch for Big Sur...
Thanks for the info Mike.

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#636876 - 01/17/21 08:46 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: CrvsCrx]
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Originally Posted By: CrvsCrx
Seems ominous... Still talking about a dual boot on Macs to load Catalina to run BIAB going into the end of January. Still no patch for Big Sur...
Thanks for the info Mike.


Dual boot for Catalina? Never heard of an issue with Catalina since Mac BiaB went 64 bit a year ago.

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#636885 - 01/17/21 10:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: Janice & Bud]
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The issue is not with Catalina Bud, it is with Big Sur. BIAB compatibility with Big Sur.


Edited by CrvsCrx (01/17/21 12:52 PM)

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#636900 - 01/17/21 12:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: jazzman81]
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Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Build 421 (Dec 18, 2020) crashes on launch every time in Big Sur - reinstalling older version does not solve the problem the problem was introduced in Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Build 421 (Dec 18, 2020). Please help. BIAB is currently useless.

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#636908 - 01/17/21 12:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: Doug Miner]
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Yes Doug, BIAB Mac 2020 is not compatible with Big Sur. PG Music is supposedly working on an update. At this time must have OS Catalina to use BIAB Mac 2020, that is the reason for the discussion of dual boot.

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#636942 - 01/17/21 03:59 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: CrvsCrx]
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Originally Posted By: CrvsCrx
The issue is not with Catalina Bud, it is with Big Sur. BIAB compatibility with Big Sur.


I totally understand all of the Big Sur issues. I just read the post as the issue being with Catalina. One could interpret the statement as referencing Mojave v Catalina.

“ Still talking about a dual boot on Macs to load Catalina to run BIAB...”

Old phart moment I guess. They come more and more frequently:)

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#637027 - 01/18/21 08:30 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: Doug Miner]
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Originally Posted By: Doug Miner
Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Build 421 (Dec 18, 2020) crashes on launch every time in Big Sur - reinstalling older version does not solve the problem the problem was introduced in Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Build 421 (Dec 18, 2020). Please help. BIAB is currently useless.
Nonsense.

Unless you have an M1 Mac, it’s easy to install Catalina on an APFS volume or an external drive. An APFS volume doesn’t cost a thing. Apple has support documents and phone Tech Support for MacOS issues is free for Mojave, Catalina and Big Sur over supported hardware—all 2012 and later Macs except the Mac Pro 5.1 (Mojave only).

In my case, I have an external SSD with two APFS volumes that allows my iMac Pro to boot in Mojave (one of my bread & butter apps is waiting for an update) or Big Sur for testing. BIAB is not the only app I use that isn’t OS 11 compatible. I have my reasons for not having all three APFS volumes on my iMP but it is one of my options.

I have a twin drive toaster style OWC Drive Dock ($89) that contains that SSD—I just select the startup drive and reboot. The other slot has a 4TB SSD for samples and VI libraries and my Apple Music / iTunes library. BIAB is installed on the iMP 4TB internal that I can access from the other two volumes. No one has to do this thanks to APFS volumes.
OWC Drive Dock

Hey, I still need to make a living.
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#637046 - 01/18/21 10:43 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: TRYUK]
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Thanks Mike for the info. I am going to research the OWC Drive Dock to use SSD storage, I am using a 2TB NAS on network at present and it is a pain sometimes (slow to load, etc.). I prefer the APFS volume over the external drive, it is faster in my case. I have created both. Creating the volume was easy, to create the bootable drive with OS Catalina install I used a third party software, still easy to do.

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#637150 - 01/18/21 10:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Big Sur [Re: CrvsCrx]
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Originally Posted By: CrvsCrx
… I am using a 2TB NAS on network at present and it is a pain sometimes (slow to load, etc.).…
Yep.

I have a twin drive 28TB NAS that I use for Time Machine for the whole network. I would never load files I actually use on it. As you already know: Life is too short.

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I prefer the APFS volume over the external drive, it is faster in my case. I have created both. Creating the volume was easy, to create the bootable drive with OS Catalina install I used a third party software, still easy to do.


You're right, adding a volume is a lot faster but I would lose the ability to do near-instant TM restore via APFS Snapshots on my System drive (doesn't work with two MacOS on the same System*). With some of the apps and testing I do, losing Snapshots is not an option for me. Since Snapshots isn't an issue on my external, two volumes on one drive is fine.

*On the occasions I have to restore via Snapshots, I shut down then turn the external off before I boot ⌘ r into the Repair Partition. Can't do that with a partitioned or multi-volume drive. Again, not an issue for most users.
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