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#639003 - 01/29/21 03:43 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper?
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Hey folks - has anyone had any issues getting the BIAB DAW plug in to load in Reaper?

I have the same issue with FL Studio. I can find it, select it, but it just spins, times out, and won't load.

I really want to use it inside the DAW instead of generating tracks in BIAB, exporting as single wav files, then importing them that way.
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#639036 - 01/29/21 06:39 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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No problems with loading and running the CURRENT version of the biab-VST3 in Reaper. What version are you running?
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#639068 - 01/30/21 05:22 AM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Also which plugin version are you usingVSTi2 or 3, or VSTfx?
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#639122 - 01/30/21 10:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Hey guys - thanks for chipping in to try and help.

I'm using V2021 (814) 64 bit app / VST3i plugin

Reaper 6.21

Windows 10 64 bit w 16GB RAM

And it's frustrating that it won't it load for me. It would be so much better than having to create and export individual files then bring them into Reaper
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#639158 - 01/30/21 11:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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jim madsen.

most times these probs are settings related.
please post large pics/and/or type back the following info.
1. whats your sound device ??
2. if your sound device has a control panel post your bit depth and sampling rate settings.
3. post your asio reaper audio settings. project sampling rate and bit depth.
under the "X" in reaps TOP RIGHT HAND SIDE what does reaps say ??
4. post your biab audio settings. from the audio prefs.
5. in windows playback and recording dialogs includeing advanced what does win show as your default sound device, and what does win show as your default bit depth and sampling rate. ??
the above will help people help you.
best.
i-like-reaps-too-muso.
(note if other people are running 814 bb release as plug in in reaps fine then i suspect a setting in one of the above. )






Edited by justanoldmuso (01/30/21 11:54 AM)
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#639171 - 01/30/21 12:40 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Are you saying it won't install or it won't load on the reaper track?

This is how I install. Then reaper finds the VST and next I load it on the reaper track. Does that sound right like what you are doing and can you get that far?


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#639234 - 01/30/21 08:09 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Edited by jimmadsen (01/30/21 08:10 PM)
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#639241 - 01/30/21 09:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Originally Posted By: jimmadsen
..I can find it, select it, but it just spins, times out, and won't load...

So in Reaper you select the BBPlugin,
does the GUI come up ?
have you tried the C:\bb\BBPlugin\Files\Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin Standalone.exe ?
In TaskManager under Details Tab can you see bbw4_64.exe ?
what drive have you got the bb\ folder installed on ?
If it's on another drive you made need to edit
C:\Users\Public\Ticket\Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin Folder Locations.txt
and set the correct paths:

Code:
BBLocation=C:\bb\
RealTracksLocation=D:\bb\RealTracks\
DrumsLocation=D:\bb\Drums\
SavedTracksLocation=C:\bb\BBPlugin\SavedTracks\
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#639281 - 01/31/21 06:00 AM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Jim, from what I see from your screen shots you are using a sound blaster with ASIO4All drive set to 24 bit 48,000 sample rate. But your Reaper setting appear to be WAS 44,100 sample rate. In the drop down box in reaper for audio drivers select ASIO4All. Also make sure Reaper is running at 24 bit 48,000 sample rate as if I remember from many years ago Sound blasters only use that sample rating.

Side note, if it were me I would upgrade to a true interface like a small focusrite or Presonus and use real ASIO drives or dump the ASIO4All I’m not sure that driver has been kept update through the years and is not actually a ASIO drive it just fakes the Microsoft drives into thinking it is ASIO.

Great little starter setup. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AudioBoxUSB96--presonus-audiobox-usb-96
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#639313 - 01/31/21 09:14 AM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: Rob Helms]
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jim.
this thread here i set up so people could post their sound devices that work well with pg software.
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=635707#Post635707

as you can see its a good long list.

BUT before you get a new sound device, take a minute and let
us all know what your song goals are ??
what are they ??
are you going to be recording lots of vocal traks ?
do you want to record with others ? which might mean more inputs needed.
what are your needs songwise ?
then we can advise further.

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#639319 - 01/31/21 10:30 AM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: Pipeline]
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ROB HELMS - thanks so much for the note back. Actually it is the other way around. Reaper is set to 48 and BIAB is set to 41. I tried setting the BIAB to 48, but no luck. I will go get that PreSonus interface to see if that makes a difference.

JUSTANOLDMUSO - Thank you for the link to the other post - I will definitely spend some time on that one.

As for your excellent questions - in marketing parlay we call them "strategic objectives" :-) :
let us all know what your song goals are ?? I've been performing live like most of you for at least 40 years. It's how I paid for college way back when. I've been using BIAB since 2010 and early on it was and still is to just augment recordings of my own material. It's starting to expand more as I begin to create music projects for others.

are you going to be recording lots of vocal traks ? No, when I start expanding and recording my friends, it will usually be between 2-3 vocal tracks. At most it will be 2 to 6 tracks total, but that would be rare.

do you want to record with others ? which might mean more inputs needed. - I have a Behringer board with USB interface and was going to use that when I needed to record more than two tracks at a time.

PIPELINE - Great questions, hopefully I can give the correct answers to match.

Originally Posted By: Pipeline

So in Reaper you select the BBPlugin,
does the GUI come up ?


No - not even seeing the BIAB GUI. I can select it as an option, but it never loads.

Originally Posted By: Pipeline

So in Reaper you select the BBPlugin,
does the GUI come up ?


No - not even seeing the BIAB GUI


Originally Posted By: Pipeline

have you tried the C:\bb\BBPlugin\Files\Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin Standalone.exe ?

No - I haven't - great idea. I will try that option.

Originally Posted By: Pipeline

In TaskManager under Details Tab can you see bbw4_64.exe ?

Yeah - it's there.

Originally Posted By: Pipeline
what drive have you got the bb\ folder installed on ?
If it's on another drive you made need to edit

I have my BIAB running off my D Drive and everything else running off my C Drive. THIS MIGHT BE THE FLY IN THE OINTMENT - since I'm running my BIAB off my D Drive, and everything else off my C drive. Hopefully I'm not royally screwed.

Here is the current contents of that file: C:\Users\Public\Ticket\Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin Folder Locations.txt

BBLocation=D:\BandInABox\
RealTracksLocation=D:\BandInABox\RealTracks\
DrumsLocation=D:\BandInABox\Drums\
SavedTracksLocation=D:\BandInABox\BBPlugin\SavedTracks\


EVERYONE - I can't begin to tell you how appreciative I am with the help you're providing. Hopefully I will ge4t to a point where I can also chip in and help others. But you guys are light years ahead of me with technical acumen. So thank you for being so kind, helpful, and generous with your knowledge.
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#639330 - 01/31/21 12:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Yes so try the Standalone and let us know if that is working.
Another option is here
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=618836#
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#639387 - 01/31/21 03:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Hey Pipeline...

When I run the stand alone, it starts just fine. So THAT'S what the plug in is supposed to look like! Howdy Doody. Can't wait to suss this one out.

I'm playing with the KV Elements but so far haven't sprinkled the right pixie dust to make it happen, but I'm persistent.
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#639391 - 01/31/21 03:49 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Like this:



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#639393 - 01/31/21 04:08 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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EXCELLENT - LET ME TRY THAT! I'm in the middle of sewing protective covers for my floor monitors (yes, I'm a dude that sews) so they don't get dinged up as much transporting to gigs.

So as soon as I finish that I will try it the way you have shown. That REALLY helps and I wasn't doing it like that.

THANK YOU!!!
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#639395 - 01/31/21 04:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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You sound like a
Hard Workin' Man
I can ride, rope, sew, hammer and paint
Do things with my hands that most men can't...
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#639425 - 01/31/21 08:28 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Well...worked right up until I dragged the BIAB DAW VST.dll plug in into the Elements window.

Then I got the spinning circle of infinite sadness.

CRAPPITY CRAP.

I think I'm destined to just export as individual wav files and working with those.
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#639427 - 01/31/21 08:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Try dragging all of them, VST2 and VST3 FX and Instrument and see if they all do the same.
Try and drag out of D:\bb\BBPlugin\Files also
What version are you using ? have you got the latest 3.4.4
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#639429 - 01/31/21 08:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Yeah - I've been trying to drag the .dll into each version of the KV Element app...to no avail.

I have the latest install and updates of BIAB (2021 814 64 bit and Reaper 6.2.1 64

*sigh*
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#639438 - 01/31/21 10:32 PM [Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)] Re: Any issues getting the BIAB DAW to load in Reaper? [Re: jimmadsen]
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Try create a folder on C:\bb then copy everything inside D:\bb
except Drums and RealTracks folder to C:\bb
now set C:\Users\Public\Ticket\Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin Folder Locations.txt
BBLocation=C:\bb\
RealTracksLocation=D:\bb\RealTracks\
DrumsLocation=D:\bb\Drums\
SavedTracksLocation=C:\bb\BBPlugin\SavedTracks\

The BBPlugin should only use C:\bbw4_64.exe and C:\Data\libx64 and C:\bb\Preferences
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