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#639859 - 02/02/21 10:17 PM [User Showcase] Razor's Edge
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Razor's Edge


File:Razor's Edge.SGU

Key=D , Tempo 40, Length (m:s)=2:48

Style is _MORTALS.STY (Mortals Soul Pop Soloist)

RealTracks in song: 3546:Bass, Electric, AmericanaSlow12-8SteveAB Sw 040
RealTracks in style: 3088:Piano, ElectricVintage, Rhythm AmericanaSlow128Mike Sw 040
RealTracks in style: 3722:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopSoulHeldSlow128Brent Sw 040
RealTracks in style: 3723:Guitar, Electric, Soloist PopSoulGritSlow128Brent Sw 040
RealTracks in song: 3086:Organ, Rhythm AmericanaSlow128Mike Sw 040
RealDrums [in Song:AmericanaSlow128^04-a:Kick Hihat Quarter, b:Kick Snare

A very slow Pop-Rock Blues in 12/8 time signature.

I was going give you a rather detailed explanation of how I approached genesis and assembly of this song, as I did on my previous song. But I thought it might bore you, so I decided not to.

I replaced the original bass and drums from the style and wrote a completely new chord pattern. I gave the solo guitar a slight bit more echo/delay than the indigenous track for the style, plus quite a bit more distortion. I then added the organ for a more spatial sound. That's probably all you might want to know, rather than the full approach I used.

I attempted to model the guitar solo similar to the style and sound characteristics of Tak Matsumoto, a Japanese Blues guitarist I like quite a bit.

Hope you enjoy it.

Alan


BY REQUEST, HERE ARE MY THOUGHTS AS I PUT THIS ONE TOGETHER:



After selecting the style to match the song idea in my head, I wrote a whole new chord pattern, changed the bass and drum tracks. I then added the organ. I wasn’t sure, at first, if it was a good idea to use an organ and electric piano together. But after playing around with them for a while, I thought it sounded okay, so I kept both. The organ gives a little more depth to the distant ambience. The electric piano fills the left side of the soundstage, opposing the rhythm guitar on the right. The electric piano and the guitar sit in front of the organ.

My deeper thoughts as I mixed this: A broken heart, represented by the solo guitar, is crying out, but weakly so, as it has been thrown onto the razor’s edge by devastation. The lead guitar is in the middle of the front-to-rear depth. I wanted it to sound as if the other tracks were cradling and soothing it, soothing it from the cut of the razor’s edge, thus placing it a little further back in the mix than what is typical/usual. The drums are more forward than I usually mix them in this sort of song. They’re also simple. I wanted them to represent the heart beating loud, above the anguish, as though calling out for comfort. The bass has a few fill runs, my effort to further expose the drama of the heart’s pain. I gave the guitar a little more echo/delay and turned up the distortion a bit. The solo guitar is generic to the style. I just manipulated it somewhat.

It might seem a little silly to some folks, but that’s how I approached this song. I attempted to personify the broken heart to tell it’s tale of woe to the listener. As I write most of my my instrumentals, I usually have a little movie playing in my head and I try to capture that movie in sound.

I tried to give the guitar the sound that Tak Matsumoto most often uses. If you’re not familiar with him, he’s a Japanese guitarist I like a lot. His sound and style is somewhat similar to that of Gary Moore and, perhaps, a little Jeff Beck.

Hope that information is worthwhile to a few of you!

Alan


Edited by Al-David (02/03/21 04:25 PM)
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#639894 - 02/03/21 06:01 AM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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Well, I like your explanations, Alan. Interesting and informative. Dang, I wrote that part as the song was just starting. Then I had to stop writing to just listen. Twice. I like the moody chord structure, and, man, that guitar is HUGE WITH FEELING. Yes, I hear Tak. So well done, Alan. Thanks.
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#639899 - 02/03/21 06:18 AM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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ZOWIE! That's good!!!

Once again, Alan...Thanks for showcasing RTs that I haven't heard (or paid attention to). You often inspire me to go have a closer look...

This is an AMAZING instrumental. It is much like what I like best from Jeff Beck. I am not familiar with Tak Matsumoto - so you've sparked my interest there, as well.

Excellent.

fj

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#639903 - 02/03/21 07:06 AM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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Good stuff, Alan, love the fx on the guitar.

Nice, unpredictable chord changes make for an interesting instrumental.

I'm not familiar with Tak Matsumoto, but I'll check him out.

Enjoyed!

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#639912 - 02/03/21 07:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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Originally Posted By: Al-David

I was going give you a rather detailed explanation of how I approached genesis and assembly of this song, as I did on my previous song. But I thought it might bore you, so I decided not to.
Alan


WHAT??? WHAAAaaaaaaaaaaat? But... but..... what about the enquiring minds? Boredom ain't the biggest problem they have to deal with! Anybody who doesn't want to read the explainy stuff can just skip it.

Having whined that:
Once again, I see a bluesy trend in the forum at the moment, and I AM LOVING IT!
Speaking of which, I am also loving everything about this song. I find the pauses where only the drums play to be really effective... to the point that I'm thinking.. "no.. don't stop yet.. I'm not done listening"

The guitar tone is actually pretty similar to the tone that this forum's own Eric gets on his guitar... a tone which everybody seems to remark about in each of his songs. (Eric should make a User track if he hasn't already)

I'm curious to know if this required much regen or if it worked pretty quickly. Because it sure does work!

Thanks for posting! I'll be back.

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#639999 - 02/03/21 03:52 PM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: BabuMusic]
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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
Well, I like your explanations, Alan. Interesting and informative. Dang, I wrote that part as the song was just starting. Then I had to stop writing to just listen. Twice. I like the moody chord structure, and, man, that guitar is HUGE WITH FEELING. Yes, I hear Tak. So well done, Alan. Thanks.


Marty ...

You are always so kind. I appreciate that so very much. I thank you for the multiple listens. I like playing around with chords, progressions and the like. Sometimes, something good happens in that process.

Wishing you everything good.

Alan
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#640003 - 02/03/21 03:56 PM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: floyd jane]
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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
ZOWIE! That's good!!!

Once again, Alan...Thanks for showcasing RTs that I haven't heard (or paid attention to). You often inspire me to go have a closer look...

This is an AMAZING instrumental. It is much like what I like best from Jeff Beck. I am not familiar with Tak Matsumoto - so you've sparked my interest there, as well.

Excellent.

fj



Floyd,

Thank you very much. I haven't listened to Beck in quite some time. I think I'll head over to YouTube tonight and do a little catching up. Thanks for jarring my memory. I've been listening to Tak for about a year now. He's mostly contemporary blues and blues rock. Either way, I like what he does.


Again thank you very, very much. Wishing you the best ...

Alan
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#640005 - 02/03/21 03:59 PM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Good stuff, Alan, love the fx on the guitar.

Nice, unpredictable chord changes make for an interesting instrumental.

I'm not familiar with Tak Matsumoto, but I'll check him out.

Enjoyed!


Hey Dave ...

Thank you! I played around the the guitar fx for about fifteen minutes - it came together pretty quickly. Glad you enjoyed it. I like Tac quite a bit. For my ears, he's somewhere between Gary Moore and Jeff Beck. Many thanks for the listen and nice review!. Wishing you everything good.

Alan
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#640008 - 02/03/21 04:04 PM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Pat Marr]
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Originally Posted By: Pat Marr
Originally Posted By: Al-David

I was going give you a rather detailed explanation of how I approached genesis and assembly of this song, as I did on my previous song. But I thought it might bore you, so I decided not to.
Alan


WHAT??? WHAAAaaaaaaaaaaat? But... but..... what about the enquiring minds? Boredom ain't the biggest problem they have to deal with! Anybody who doesn't want to read the explainy stuff can just skip it.

Having whined that:
Once again, I see a bluesy trend in the forum at the moment, and I AM LOVING IT!
Speaking of which, I am also loving everything about this song. I find the pauses where only the drums play to be really effective... to the point that I'm thinking.. "no.. don't stop yet.. I'm not done listening"

The guitar tone is actually pretty similar to the tone that this forum's own Eric gets on his guitar... a tone which everybody seems to remark about in each of his songs. (Eric should make a User track if he hasn't already)

I'm curious to know if this required much regen or if it worked pretty quickly. Because it sure does work!

Thanks for posting! I'll be back.



Hey Pat ...

Okay, as soon as I'm finished wit this reply, I'll go back and edit in my thoughts on the song development. I just didn't want to bore anyone. And yeah, Eric is a fabulous instrumentalist. He deserves every accolade he receives.

The regeneration went relatively quick. I probably did 8 - 10 regenerations. There was one I liked slightly better but the ending was pretty rough, so I went back to this one. Thank you for your kind words. I sincerely appreciate them. Best to you & yours ...

Alan
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#640024 - 02/03/21 04:30 PM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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Alan, this is a blues masterpiece. Loved that guitar tone and your chord progression. Everything about this is perfect.

PS - I also like to know how people put there songs together. This old dog still can learn a new trick or two.
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#640028 - 02/03/21 04:37 PM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: MarioD]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD
Alan, this is a blues masterpiece. Loved that guitar tone and your chord progression. Everything about this is perfect.

PS - I also like to know how people put there songs together. This old dog still can learn a new trick or two.



Mario, my friend!!!

Thank you very much. You truly humble me. I just went back and added my thought processes as I put this together, as well as somewhat of an explanation how those thought processes materialized during what I call the "construction phase". Hope you find something of value in that.

Best to you. Stay warm!

Alan
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#640098 - 02/03/21 11:44 PM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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Really nice.

Loved the major-seventhy middle and end section - sounded a bit like the Eagles for a moment, then the chords shifted again.

The instrumentation sounded good to me.

I enjoyed reading the additional information on how the song was put together as well.
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#640114 - 02/04/21 03:39 AM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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Love this. Although this song is an instrumental - (a really good one I might add... ) the structure of the song had me thinking and feeling lyrically. I'm a bit melancholy in mood these days and not too far into the song I had the vibe of Paul Carrack (Ace, Mike and the Mechanics, solo) coming from my speakers. One poster mentioned an Eagles sound and groove, yep - Mr. Carrack wrote "Love Will Keep Us Alive" that the Eagles recorded - so that fits too.

Enjoyed my listen a lot. Hope to hear another from you soon.

Charlie
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#640155 - 02/04/21 07:19 AM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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A beautiful chord progression with many hot moments of eye-closing anguish. The guitar lead was equally as saucy, if not more so. Also liked the simple organ background that helped defined the ezquiaite harmonies. Really enjoyed listening.
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#640156 - 02/04/21 07:34 AM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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I'm a sucker for gently weeping guitars. This example is about as good as it gets.
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#640171 - 02/04/21 08:47 AM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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This is awesome. The guitar had some much feeling to it. Well done. The backtrack framed the soloist so well. Just a beautiful piece of music. I am so glad you let us know how you developed the song and what you were trying to achieve. You nailed it big time.

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#640204 - 02/04/21 11:43 AM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Al-David]
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Al,
Wow! That`s a guitar track that`s so fine in your very emotive vehicle; I think you definitely achieved your goal of maxing out the heartbreak.
Very much enjoyed!
I might have missed it; what effects did you apply to the RT,please?

Robert

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#640446 - 02/05/21 03:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: dcuny]
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Really nice.

Loved the major-seventhy middle and end section - sounded a bit like the Eagles for a moment, then the chords shifted again.

The instrumentation sounded good to me.

I enjoyed reading the additional information on how the song was put together as well.



Hi David ...

Many thanks for the really nice comments! The song is in the key of D but the verses focus more on the Bm aspect, but the chorus goes to Dmaj7. I've always thought the transition from the relative minor to the Maj7 of the tonic/root is such a sweet and soothing sound. I need to use it more often!

Glad you enjoyed the song and the explanation of my concept. Wishing you the best ...

Alan
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#640448 - 02/05/21 03:09 PM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
Love this. Although this song is an instrumental - (a really good one I might add... ) the structure of the song had me thinking and feeling lyrically. I'm a bit melancholy in mood these days and not too far into the song I had the vibe of Paul Carrack (Ace, Mike and the Mechanics, solo) coming from my speakers. One poster mentioned an Eagles sound and groove, yep - Mr. Carrack wrote "Love Will Keep Us Alive" that the Eagles recorded - so that fits too.

Enjoyed my listen a lot. Hope to hear another from you soon.

Charlie



Hi Charlie ...

It's always a pleasure to have you listen and comment. I've never listened to Mike And The mechanics but a few times, years ago. I am familiar with the Eagles song "Love Will Keep Us Alive" but never paid attention to the writer credit.

Glad you enjoyed it! There'll be more soon - a a few waiting in the wings. I usually don't post a new song when the previous one is still on the first page of comments. I think it's just courteous to the other forum members to do it that way.

I could write a lyric for it, but my voice makes a cement mixer sound like a top-ten vocalist.

Many thanks. Best to you ...

Alan
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#640450 - 02/05/21 03:12 PM [User Showcase] Re: Razor's Edge [Re: Tangmo]
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A beautiful chord progression with many hot moments of eye-closing anguish. The guitar lead was equally as saucy, if not more so. Also liked the simple organ background that helped defined the ezquiaite harmonies. Really enjoyed listening.


Hi Tangmo ...

Thank you sao much for those very nice comments! Sure do appreciate all that! What I like about the organ track is it is, mostly, a steady hold on the chords - not too busy. Therefore, it creates an ambience that deepens the mood opf a slow blues. At least, that's my thought on that.

Thanks for the listen and helpful comments! best to you ...

Alan
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Order any version of Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Windows and receive your download key right away for use with our One-Click Installer, but don't wait too long... our Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Windows special ends December 31st!

Order now to add over 70 new features and amazing new content to your Band-in-a-Box® collection, including 222 RealTracks (20 more than we've released in previous versions), new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Song with Vocals" Artist Performances, XPro Styles PAK 4, Xtra Styles PAK 14 & 15, Playable RealTracks Set 2, Playable RealDrums Set 1, 2 new sets of "RealDrums Stems," and more!

It's a great time to order, with up to 50% off Band-in-a-Box® 2023 Upgrade purchases until December 31, 2022!

Plus, there is a Free Bonus PAK automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Windows 2023 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 60 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade it to the 2023 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

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