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from a previous thread you'll know i now have nectar 3 plus which means - as i've said before - my voice still sounds crap but perfectly eq'd and compressed.
there is a feature called 'unmask' which talks to other tracks which have either relay or neutron elements as plugins and - i think - carves out a chunk of their eq that might 'mask' the vocal.
for novelty value - and my voice needs as much help as it can get - which tracks are masking my voice as being in the same part of the frequency spectrum?
and if its not easy to name particular instruments - is there a way i can find out?
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Hey Bob, the Izoptope tools normally do that stuff in the background. It analyzes the frequencies of your vocal track and will adjust those same frequencies lower on the other tracks, kind of like an inverse EQ of what vocals are. Any of your other instruments could have related frequency ranges. As far as if you want to do that kind of thing manually, yourself..... Get your vocals EQ'ed the way you like and perform the opposite EQ tweaks on the instrument tracks. You probably wouldn't want to cut as much on the instruments as you boosted on vocals, etc... Not sure if this is the kind of answer you were looking for.
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thanks steve - i was wondering whether to put relay or neutron on all the other tracks or just some.
sounds like they all need it.
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Grab a spectrum analyzer plugin (a good free one can be found in the MeldaProductions Free Bundle) and put it on your vocal track. It'll show you what frequency range the bulk of the "energy" of your vocals is in. Then you can use an EQ on your other tracks to cut a bit at that frequency range to give your vocals some room. Or, even better, get a Dynamic EQ (like the wonderful and also free TDR Nova plugin) and use that on your other tracks (or a bus with your other tracks in it), and sidechain it to your vocal track so that it automatically adjusts the EQ gain whenever your vocals are present, and use the aforementioned spectrum analyzer to set the frequency points of the dynamic EQ.
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thanks Simon and Steve - it's a steep learning curve. but fun during lockdown!
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for novelty value - and my voice needs as much help as it can get - which tracks are masking my voice as being in the same part of the frequency spectrum?
Let me see, I'd guess piano, guitar, drums, bass and 'X' (any variable) all share the same frequencies as your vocal. <grin> I'd stick with basics and find the right compressor/EQ combo that brings your vocals out, regardless of whether you like them. To me it sounds like the problem is that they are lacking the presence needed. First; get them to the front of the mix, then you can worry about other stuff. One problem people often have is approaching this backwards; focus on the vocals first. If I can get a vocal to sound like it is right in my ear or in my face, then I worry about the next layer, but often that first step solves the following problems right away. Judicious EQ (cut more than boost), efficient compression to bring them out front (so you hear the 's' and 't' sounds and other annunciations etc), then less reverb (often used to try to improve a vocal but actually muddies it in the end) can help isolate your vocals in a mix. That's how I read your dilemma; vocals not standing out.
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