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#641788 - 02/12/21 03:08 PM
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Fire Without Fuel
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Fire Without Fuel After writing and sharing more than a half dozen father/son themed songs here I thought to go back to the first of its kind -30years back- and one of the first songs I wrote. Updated and in a style that`s also a familiar friend (before I delve into Biab 2021 and look for something new). Style is _HOMESIK.STY (Homesick Soft Pop Serenade) RealTracks in style: 2474:Bass, Acoustic, Held Ev 085 RealTracks in song: 2505:Piano, Electric, HeldChords 085 RealTracks in style: 3059:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm Muted16thsFintan Ev16 080 RealTracks in song: 2533:Guitar, Acoustic, HeldChords RealTracks in song: 3231:Guitar, Electric, Background CinemaHeldHighDarin Ev16 090 RealTracks in song: 3230:Guitar, Electric, Background CinemaHeldLowDarin Ev16 090 RealDrums Shaker Fire Without Fuel in darkness you`re nobody`s fool that stance so wild and cool is there a sound behind your eyes I hear you beat a warrior`s drum show me everything I`ve done wrong words for feelings you hide I`m a man trying to understand a boys life won`t play by rules its fire fire without fuel fire without fuel my daddy died when I was young burned out like a tired old sun sinking out of my world I wrote his name in the sand never talked to the man my vow after him hurled never grow old let my blood run cold my life played by one rule fire fire without fuel fire without fuel never mind about the apple and the tree what burns in you burns in me your station won`t play my song we`re two boys who long for life played by one rule fire fire without fuel fire without fuel © Robert Cordrey 1994/revised 2020
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#641811 - 02/12/21 09:11 PM
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Good write! Sad and angry, understanding but still looking away. The structure feels fragmented and jagged, a good match with the lyrics. Emotive singing, nice backing and mix. 
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#641847 - 02/13/21 03:55 AM
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Re: Fire Without Fuel
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"my daddy died when I was young
burned out like a tired old sun"
Nice! You truly are a wordsmith, Robert.
Good song, great job on the production and mix too.
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#641893 - 02/13/21 08:00 AM
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Re: Fire Without Fuel
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Loved this song Robert. Very cool mix. Super vocal and lyric. Backtrack was perfect for the song. Well done
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#641940 - 02/13/21 11:58 AM
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Re: Fire Without Fuel
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That is a most thoughtful cross-generational write...so many subtleties.
Nice twist on the apple/tree phrase.
There are a LOT of folks who are still looking for a write like this long, long
after their first few songs.
Really nice production all through!
J&B
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#641952 - 02/13/21 12:36 PM
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Re: Fire Without Fuel
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Robert,
A strong write. Very impressive for "30years back- and one of the first songs I wrote...".
Good production and an emotive vocal. Nicely mixed.
Poetry set to music. Very original in all respects.
fj
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#641989 - 02/13/21 05:11 PM
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Angry loss is a common combo.
This covers it well.
There's a hit at 1.49 that could be reduced - I found it distracting in headphones.
Well done.
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#641997 - 02/13/21 05:34 PM
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Re: Fire Without Fuel
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What a great way to express oneself.
"my daddy died when I was young
burned out like a tired old sun
sinking out of my world
I wrote his name in the sand
never talked to the man
my vow after him hurled
never grow old let my blood run cold"
I did you come up with this line some 30 years ago? WOW is all I can say. Your lyrics are fantastic.
You also did a fantastic job on your vocal, backing tracks, and mix.
Great song.
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#642019 - 02/13/21 06:40 PM
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Re: Fire Without Fuel
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Good write! Sad and angry, understanding but still looking away. The structure feels fragmented and jagged, a good match with the lyrics. Emotive singing, nice backing and mix. Thanks for your listen and comments, David! "my daddy died when I was young
burned out like a tired old sun"
Nice! You truly are a wordsmith, Robert.
Good song, great job on the production and mix too.
Dave, That`s very kind. In the lyrics tried to avoid any sentimentality- even if keeping it a little raw will put some listeners off. Loved this song Robert. Very cool mix. Super vocal and lyric. Backtrack was perfect for the song. Well done Scott, Thank you, Sir! That is a most thoughtful cross-generational write...so many subtleties.
Nice twist on the apple/tree phrase.
There are a LOT of folks who are still looking for a write like this long, long
after their first few songs.
Really nice production all through!
J&B J&B, Ok, you found the line I added this year! Many thanks for your appreciative comments. Robert
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#642022 - 02/13/21 07:43 PM
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Another well crafted song. Lyrics are poetry. I love the way you have the band playing that sweet melancholic music during break.
p.s. I love the "Two Bit Mystic" brand. Outstanding.
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#642133 - 02/14/21 01:56 PM
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Robert
Very nice work all round, I like what you are doing with your vocals these days, including the nice harmonies.
Enjoyable song.
Peter
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#642149 - 02/14/21 03:46 PM
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Love the atmosphere, and the arrangement is super. When the bass kicks - perfect!
Well written!
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#642160 - 02/14/21 04:51 PM
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Robert,
The combination of musical instruments is wonderful.
I think it's perfect for this song.
The contrivance of the chord progression is very personal as usual.
You also did a fantastic job on your vocal.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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#642188 - 02/14/21 08:09 PM
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Hello Robert ...
I always find your songs engaging. I like your sense of music - a little traditional, a little freelance, a little outside the box, a lot of creativity and wonderfully arranged. I liked this one a lot!!!
Great lyrics here:
my daddy died when I was young
burned out like a tired old sun
sinking out of my world
I can relate. My father died when I was relatively young (21). He taught me my first chords on the guitar. he had big hopes for me. Unfortunately, he didn't live long enough to see it. He was an automotive mechanic his entire life. He died broken down and in extremely poor health.
Another fantastic song. So much to like! Wishing you the very best ...
Alan
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#642293 - 02/15/21 11:57 AM
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Robert,
A strong write. Very impressive for "30years back- and one of the first songs I wrote...".
Good production and an emotive vocal. Nicely mixed.
Poetry set to music. Very original in all respects.
fj Floyd, I appreciate those kind comments! Angry loss is a common combo.
This covers it well.
There's a hit at 1.49 that could be reduced - I found it distracting in headphones.
Well done. Good ears, Ray! That click must be the acoustic guitar...and I`m so close to maxed on SC that I can`t afford to fix it. What a great way to express oneself.
"my daddy died when I was young
burned out like a tired old sun
sinking out of my world
I wrote his name in the sand
never talked to the man
my vow after him hurled
never grow old let my blood run cold"
I did you come up with this line some 30 years ago? WOW is all I can say. Your lyrics are fantastic.
You also did a fantastic job on your vocal, backing tracks, and mix.
Great song. Mario, I`d had 25 years of repressing how I felt about my Dad`s death when I wrote that. Needing to get real with a teenage son must have been good for my newly discovered songwriting interest. A very supportive review- thank you! Another well crafted song. Lyrics are poetry. I love the way you have the band playing that sweet melancholic music during break.
p.s. I love the "Two Bit Mystic" brand. Outstanding. The moniker is intended to be a little fun at my philosophizing tendency- glad you approve of it and the song! Robert
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#642296 - 02/15/21 12:20 PM
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Re: Fire Without Fuel
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Nice, I am a sucker for harmonies. Translates well to my laptop which has not bad sound. Don't dare sneak back into the studio. Hehe.
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#642396 - 02/16/21 06:09 AM
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Hi Robertkc,
Very sweet song. The rhythm of the guitar goes well with the vaporous sonorous layers in the background. Your voice lends itself very well to this atmosphere. Well done
Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
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#642434 - 02/16/21 10:11 AM
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You are a genius. The real deal. Full stop.
So effing sensitive, every time.
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#642767 - 02/18/21 09:32 AM
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Robert
Very nice work all round, I like what you are doing with your vocals these days, including the nice harmonies.
Enjoyable song.
Peter Peter, I listened to someone`s advice on how to stand & breathe for better harmonies- still working on it but I appreciate the nod. Thanks for listening! Love the atmosphere, and the arrangement is super. When the bass kicks - perfect!
Well written! Thank you! Robert,
The combination of musical instruments is wonderful.
I think it's perfect for this song.
The contrivance of the chord progression is very personal as usual.
You also did a fantastic job on your vocal.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi Shigeki, I know you recognize my style preferences and similar song progressions... I do hope that`s a groove rather than a rut! Thanks for your comments. Hello Robert ...
I always find your songs engaging. I like your sense of music - a little traditional, a little freelance, a little outside the box, a lot of creativity and wonderfully arranged. I liked this one a lot!!!
Great lyrics here:
my daddy died when I was young
burned out like a tired old sun
sinking out of my world
I can relate. My father died when I was relatively young (21). He taught me my first chords on the guitar. he had big hopes for me. Unfortunately, he didn't live long enough to see it. He was an automotive mechanic his entire life. He died broken down and in extremely poor health.
Another fantastic song. So much to like! Wishing you the very best ...
Alan Alan, Your positive comments and personal relation to my words are much appreciated! Nice, I am a sucker for harmonies. Translates well to my laptop which has not bad sound. Don't dare sneak back into the studio. Hehe. Thanks, Paul! Hi Robertkc,
Very sweet song. The rhythm of the guitar goes well with the vaporous sonorous layers in the background. Your voice lends itself very well to this atmosphere. Well done
Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash Derochette, "vaporous sonorous layers"- I like that! I also like that you heard something sweet in the song- thank you. You are a genius. The real deal. Full stop.
So effing sensitive, every time. James, My secret to being "effing sensitive" is to give free rein to that other guy in here, who can`t help making up silly, crude and childish versions of my own sensitive lines ... if you heard those you`d certainly not use that G word! Robert
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#642770 - 02/18/21 09:57 AM
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Very strong emotional poetry with cinematic images about boy's life. Cinema guitars work very well, adding nice layer to the indie movie atmosphere. Good vocals, I like the way you sing the first 'fire' in the choruses, kind of high point of the song.
Janne
Edited by jannesan (02/18/21 09:57 AM)
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