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#642196 - 02/14/21 08:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface)
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Band in a Box is a software with no rival, no competitors, is only-type and is awesome, yes, you can have a band in a box literally... Every edition comes with amazing new features and is very plentfull that PG launching new REAL TRACKS constantly... I know, all his intentions are focused on this, but they pass for one of the most important things in every product... The aestethics!
Band in Box 2021 looks almost exactly as the first BB, the changes introduced on 2019 (I think) weren't big changes... in results BB looks old, as a software from Windows 98...remember that?

I suggest it's time to dedicate time to all the graphic interface, hire good designers and think about a better ergonomic presentation, with a modern and fresher look. I know that you can do it, and this can helps to more sales, and for us the users feeling more comfortable...I suggest to, the ergonomics, think about new distribution of all components, and how we interact with they this can improve the production work.

It's my modest opinion, but I think many of the readers here, will share it.

Thanks PG for this freakin awesome software...do it better!!!

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#642212 - 02/14/21 11:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: DavidAntagon]
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This has been going on for a while See Here, there has been lots of changes.
One of the forum members Rustyspoon# creates GUI examples,
you might be best to suggest some layout ideas and maybe he could make an example up.
The more users that can pitch in with ideas the better.
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#642225 - 02/15/21 04:03 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: DavidAntagon]
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A big welcome, David

Because of the way the old GUI worked, I came up with this suggestion in 2016
Since then some concepts have been taken on board, but there are always continual ways to improve.
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#642253 - 02/15/21 07:56 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: DavidAntagon]
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Yes, some great ideas here by Videotrack to clean up the interface substantially. Even without any work to redo the menu organization, this technique would be very welcome.

To the OP, the BIAB GUI was revised in 2018.
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#642310 - 02/15/21 01:55 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: Pipeline]
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#642323 - 02/15/21 05:08 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: DavidAntagon]
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Definitely giving this another +1. Modern interfaces are important components of any system.
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#642332 - 02/15/21 06:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: DavidAntagon]
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A Nashville producer told me
"Myself, I find the user interface to BIAB one of the most confounding, and downright biggest UI messes ever, but that's just me. But... that is a great program in terms of what it can do and those real tracks they use now, sound more realistic than anything anyone has going. It really is fantastic."
mind you this was a long time ago and there have been many improvements such as ideas from VT's video implemented, but yes it's time for a more professional GUI.
With all the tracks in there now maybe more like a DAW or at least have some modular layouts that the user can move the elements around and save as a layout along with the skins.
It's just that a lot of the old 8.3 255 limitations are still there.
The more I type the more Déjà vu there is, "haven't I been here before ?"
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#642355 - 02/16/21 01:38 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: DavidAntagon]
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+1

However... a question and elaboration.
David, are you using "minimalistic" view or "old view" (with big buttons)?
If you using older theme, try switching to minimalistic view, you might be pleasantly surprised.

To PG defense, Minimalistic view is pretty current/modern. Nothing crazy sticks out. Some small elements, such as the upper "status" colorful bar, I wish to have an option of hiding, otherwise it is pretty clean. David, also, if you are unaware, there is a way of customizing colors, elements and even transport buttons.

Having said that, I believe many (most!) Menu boxes have to be updated and in some cases consolidated.(frames, text font, check boxes and layout in some cases) And most importantly pickers. There are several pickers that have very different views and filters. I wish there would be a single picker for all creative content. Which would make a lot of things more unified and intuitive.

Mixer has undergone fairly complex makeover in 2021, but there is still some room for improvement, such as "magnetic" docking and smooth auto hide as in one of user Videotrack concepts.

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#642372 - 02/16/21 04:35 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: DavidAntagon]
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Yes!

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#642403 - 02/16/21 06:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
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With all the tracks in there now maybe more like a DAW or at least have some modular layouts that the user can move the elements around and save as a layout along with the skins.
It's just that a lot of the old 8.3 255 limitations are still there.
The more I type the more Déjà vu there is, "haven't I been here before ?"


This and other reasons that I'm sure you all know is why I would like a complete rewrite. Lets bring the entire program into the 21st century.


Edited by MarioD (02/16/21 06:52 AM)
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#642813 - 02/18/21 03:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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How do I find the minimalistic view? Missed that option.
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#642818 - 02/18/21 04:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: DavidAntagon]
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Press Control and the letter t at the same time on your computer keyboard. Ctrl+T

If you have a Mac, I believe it is Command and the letter t.

The command is a toggle between the classic view and the minimal view.


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#642821 - 02/18/21 04:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: DavidAntagon]
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You can also toggle using the little rectangle icons, a bit below the Master radio button, to the left of DAW.
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#642846 - 02/18/21 11:51 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
the BIAB GUI was revised in 2018.

There is a lot more to the GUI than just the main screen. The massive nested dialog windows need a massive redesign!

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#642869 - 02/19/21 04:08 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: Matt Finley]
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#642871 - 02/19/21 04:10 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: Matt Finley]
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You can also toggle using the little rectangle icons, a bit below the Master radio button, to the left of DAW.
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#642881 - 02/19/21 05:41 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
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the BIAB GUI was revised in 2018.

There is a lot more to the GUI than just the main screen. The massive nested dialog windows need a massive redesign!
You might have missed a few of my comments over the last 25 years.
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#643179 - 02/20/21 10:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: Matt Finley]
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the BIAB GUI was revised in 2018.

There is a lot more to the GUI than just the main screen. The massive nested dialog windows need a massive redesign!
You might have missed a few of my comments over the last 25 years.

Just goin' on what you said most recently. I would argue the GUI was NOT revised in 2018. Just a facelift on the main screen. But the moment you click the Preferences option you are in a rat's nest maze of Windows 95 era dialog boxes and serious inconsistency between the various sub windows. Of course, as a power user you know this well too.

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#643210 - 02/21/21 05:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: DavidAntagon]
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I do.

My post was just giving the OP the date of which he was unsure.
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#643312 - 02/21/21 03:58 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band in a Box - A FULL UPDATE FOR THE GUI (Graphic User Interface) [Re: Jim Fogle]
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