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#645108 - 03/04/21 08:22 PM [I want a video that shows me how to ....] Complete song making from Intro to End.
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Yes, there are plenty of visual content available, but I feel none give a full picture of how to make a song from start to finish in one single video.

I have done a TeamViewer session with a friend today to show basic navigation and workflow of BIAB. He was blown away. I got tired too, showing as much as possible in 30 minutes we were connected.
Maybe selfish, but I feel that one of the videos I requested, that Kent made is one of the best subject related recent videos posted:
https://youtu.be/Fo9sben5x1M

I do think it is a good idea to have a tutorial on making full song, not fragmented video clips, explaining on the way, basic tools, options and techniques. Not only it will introduce basic operation to new users, but should give a general sense of what the program is capable of in single video for future buyers (I believe demo is not available for BIAB)

Perhaps: Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced with a dedicated tune for each video?
I suggested similar some time ago in different context.

P.S. After many (many!) hours I spent with program, I feel that I only know a fraction of what BIAB can do. So will gladly watch Intermediate and Advanced smile

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#645195 - 03/05/21 12:41 PM [I want a video that shows me how to ....] Re: Complete song making from Intro to End. [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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One I think is pretty good was created by a user named Rick Campbell. Rick is a member of another forum. Rick created the video series for Band-in-a-Box users in that forum. +++ HERE +++ is a link to download the videos.

One issue is coming up with an outline or script. How do you determine what to demonstrate and what to ignore?

How much time do you spend on all the different install media options, audio and midi settings?

Are you going to enter the song by importing a midi file, importing an audio file and using the Audio Chord Wizard to determine chords, enter chords on the chord sheet, use the piano roll view or notation view?

Will the song have repeats and codas? Will the song have an intro? How about part markers? Lyrics? What to do about an ending?

I'm not degrading your suggestion. It's just harder to do than just sitting down and making a video.

The +++ Groove 3 +++ videos are the best organized videos I've seen for beginning Band-in-a-Box.
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#645236 - 03/05/21 05:22 PM [I want a video that shows me how to ....] Re: Complete song making from Intro to End. [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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Jim, Thanks for sharing the links..
I am sure it has useful info., but looks like Ricks videos are almost decade old. I think a brand new user, or potential buyer would be turned off by that. Kent above was on the right path. I wish he would use minimalistic view smile
Ok, I am talking starting out with very simple full song tutorial...Intro->Verse->Chorus->Solo->etc.->Ending. All in-house BIAB content. A single video, no longer than 12-15 minutes.

Rough script idea:
1)Very basic interface/front end walkthrough/transport buttons.
2) Selecting existing style or from scratch (Existing style might be easier for beginner, so sorting style picker!)
3)Navigating / Sorting / auditioning individual RTs/Rd
4)Basic Mixer
5)Chord entry
6)Intro (song Form)
7)Markers (drum roll)
8)(Only) Mutes /Back to Normal at the bar for variation/arrangement purposes...as this is basic tune.
9)Ending
10)Export audio


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This could be a great referral, all in one tutorial. I got a name for it... BIAB video (Break-Into-A-Box)

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#646784 - 03/15/21 01:16 AM [I want a video that shows me how to ....] Re: Complete song making from Intro to End. [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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Yes, I like the idea...I struggle with things like the auto generated ending not suiting my purposes as well as wanting changes of tempo, key or style for parts of a song.
The untutored BIAB song tends to have a very homogenous sound/structure/tempo & feel.


Edited by rayc (03/15/21 01:17 AM)
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