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Build 827 #648913 03/27/21 07:09 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 95 R rcarver OP Enthusiast
OP rcarver Enthusiast R Joined: May 2006 Posts: 95	Build 827 didn't completely fix Bar Settings. 'Change by' doesn't work at all.

Re: Build 827 rcarver #648922 03/28/21 12:08 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: rcarver Build 827 didn't completely fix Bar Settings. 'Change by' doesn't work at all. Is this for MIDI tracks or RealTracks? We recently learned that Change-By for RealTracks is significantly different in the degree/severity it applies compared to MIDI. I'm not suggesting that I agree that it works satisfactorily, but try this: 1:Create a short song with RealTracks (e.g. 4 bars and 10 choruses). 2: Use Bar Settings at bar two and change-by using a value of -100 (yes, that should be a dramatic change in volume). 3: Play the song and listen to determine if the volume actually does noticeably change, but only as several choruses are played. 4: Interested to know what your findings are. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Build 827 rcarver #648923 03/28/21 12:42 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 249 Milky Way Museeker Apprentice
Museeker Apprentice Joined: May 2010 Posts: 249 Milky Way	Hello all, I tried your suggestion on my installation (build 827) Negative values are not allowed in the edit field for the volume change. I put in 100 though. The style is mostly with RT. The volume change is good audible in my opinion. But the audio on the end of the song start wobbling in kind of esoteric/klingonian noise. Very, very ugly..... I would suppose that to be a general issue. With this going on, it is practically useless to make a recording using this feature. My settings in german attached. I think you can see though, what my settings are. Cheers Stefan Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) F5-settings.png (186.59 KB, 247 downloads) Last edited by Museeker; 03/28/21 12:42 AM. DAW: Studio One 5.1 Pro Interfaces: Steinberg UR22, Scarlett 8i6 Windows 10 64bit Home Edition Microsoft Windows Version 2004 (Build 19041.685)

Re: Build 827 Museeker #648928 03/28/21 01:22 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia	Negative value volume changes are allowed in the English version, so I presumed in other language versions also? Seems this is not the case. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2021-03-28_22-19-49.jpg (45.83 KB, 231 downloads) BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Build 827 AudioTrack #648945 03/28/21 02:33 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 730 Florida etcjoe Journeyman
etcjoe Journeyman Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 730 Florida	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack Negative value volume changes are allowed in the English version, so I presume if any other language version also? As you can see in his attached picture range is 0-127 for his volume change. Interesting. My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.

Re: Build 827 rcarver #648975 03/28/21 04:13 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 249 Milky Way Museeker Apprentice
Museeker Apprentice Joined: May 2010 Posts: 249 Milky Way	Hello VideoTrack, do you have a better name? It does not work in the german version. There is a message window popping up. See..... Cheers Stefan Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) F5-settings_2.png (61.58 KB, 214 downloads) Last edited by Museeker; 03/28/21 04:14 AM. DAW: Studio One 5.1 Pro Interfaces: Steinberg UR22, Scarlett 8i6 Windows 10 64bit Home Edition Microsoft Windows Version 2004 (Build 19041.685)

Re: Build 827 Museeker #649041 03/28/21 10:26 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia	I think this needs reporting to the developers, so I'll do that now. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Build 827 Museeker #649185 03/29/21 01:37 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 788 British Columbia, Canada Blake - PG Music PG Music Staff
Blake - PG Music PG Music Staff Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 788 British Columbia, Canada	Originally Posted By: Museeker It does not work in the german version. There is a message window popping up. See..... This is normal. Only positive numbers are accepted for Fade per bar and Louder per bar (Lauter) because they do the opposite of eachother. Blake PG Music Inc.

Re: Build 827 Blake - PG Music #649195 03/29/21 02:38 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia	Thanks for clarifying, Blake. I hadn't realized/identified exactly which option had been selected. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Build 827 Museeker #649527 03/31/21 03:32 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia	Could you please go through all the available options in your German Language version to check if all of them only allow 0-100, or do some allow -127 to +127? The options are: - Change by - Fade (per bar) - Louder (per bar) I can at times enter negative values for Fade and Louder (see second image, below) but I think these are rejected, and 'Change By' is the only item that can correctly include a negative value. Note that the test for invalid value entry doesn't occur immediately the value is input. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2021-04-01_12-25-41.jpg (23.5 KB, 65 downloads) 2021-04-01_12-29-18.jpg (27.87 KB, 65 downloads) BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

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