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#648612 - 03/26/21 04:51 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Equipment to run Band in a box
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what equipment do I need to run Band in a box othet than my computer ?
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#648621 - 03/26/21 05:49 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Snakebite]
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You will want speakers that connect to your computer. In the audio world they are called monitors. You did not say if your computer is a laptop or desktop, but good speakers are needed either way.

Most of us have an external audio interface that connects by USB. Look at something like a Focusrite Scarlett.

We would need to know more to help you further. For example, do you plan to record?
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#648627 - 03/26/21 06:04 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Snakebite]
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That depends entirely on what you want to accomplish with Band-in-a-Box (BiaB).

If you just want to make music entirely in BiaB for your own enjoyment then your computer and computer speakers is all you need.

However if you want a much better sound you will need to purchase an audio interface, commonly called a sound card, and some near field monitors. Although you can record with your computer a good audio interface with near field monitors will give you a much better sounding recording. An Audio interface will also allow you to record more than one instrument or vocal simultaneously.

If you want to record a number of instruments and vocals, have total control over them and effects you should also have a Digital Audio Workstation (DAW). If you have a PC you have RealBand included with BiaB. Realband is a DAW. Most people start their songs in BiaB then move over to a DAW. Realband has many of BiaB's features so some only work in Realband.

I hope this helps and good luck.

{edit} it looks like Matt and I were typing the same thing at the same time.


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#648660 - 03/26/21 11:10 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Snakebite]
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#648739 - 03/26/21 04:58 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Snakebite]
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You only need a computer and some way of hearing the sound from BIAB (and preferably something better than built-in speakers). It gets more complex if you're wanting to record or play instruments along with BIAB though, are you wanting to do that as well?

As an alternative to studio monitors or better speakers, I'd suggest a good pair of headphones - preferably the larger "studio" kind that go over your ears. I personally use a pair of Audio Technica M50X's, but most studio headphones in the $50+ range will be good enough. Generally speaking, more expensive means better sound but also better comfort and less ear fatigue, and when you're working in audio professionally you don't want headphones that are uncomfortable or tiring to use. As well, some people will tell you that you'll need a better headphone amp to run your headphones, but in my experience that's not always the case. Some "professional" headphones require one, but usually they'll be a 600-ohm headphone. The Audio Technica's I mentioned don't require a headphone amp.

That said, I personally prefer monitors over headphones.
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#649568 - 04/01/21 04:12 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Snakebite]
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Ciao, non ho mai scritto nel forum, sono nuovo. L'argomento però mi interessa, ho appena acquistato BiaB 2021 e vorrei acquistare una scheda audio, probabilmente M-Audio, la mia domanda è BiaB è compatibile con M-Audio ?

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#649591 - 04/01/21 07:25 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Giorgio60]
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GOOGLE TRANSLATE (ITALIAN):
Originally Posted By: Giorgio60
Hi, I've never posted in the forum, I'm new. But the topic interests me, I just bought BiaB 2021 and I would like to buy a sound card, probably M-Audio, my question is BiaB is compatible with M-Audio?
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#649609 - 04/01/21 09:03 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Snakebite]
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Yes, M-Audio makes sound cards that would be fine. I used one for many years on my Windows PC with BIAB.

If you would like more specifics, tell us about your computer and what model(s) of M-Audio sound cards you are considering. Also tell us if you plan to do recording.

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#649672 - 04/01/21 03:59 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Snakebite]
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Not that it helps a lot, but I have an old Avid Mbox 2 here that I use with BB from time to time, and it works fine. Since Avid is M-Audio, they should be fine too.

We don't test BIAB with every interface under the sun, mostly because we don't get every interface under the sun given to us for free and we have to spend money on them! I've personally used interfaces from Avid, Focusrite, RME, MOTU, and Zoom, all without any major issues, and many of our users have others from Steinberg, SSL, Audient, Presonus, and many others. Like Matt said, tell us which M-Audio you're looking at and we can advise a bit better.
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#650375 - 04/06/21 03:19 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Matt Finley]
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Hi Matt, thank you for your attention. The sound card I would like to buy is the M-AUDIO AIR 192/6, a condenser microphone and headphones (as a monitor).
I have a Dell Latitude E6330 Laptop with 16GB of RAM and O.S. Windows 10 and I would like to record what I play.
I play guitar, I have an Ovation Pinnacle, a Takamine C132S classical guitar, an Aria acoustic guitar and I plan to buy an Ibanez PM2 - AA Hollow Body Electric Guitar.
I recently started playing again, I've always been passionate about jazz.
I am happy to be in this group where I am sure I will find the answers to my questions.

See you soon

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#650376 - 04/06/21 03:25 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Simon - PG Music]
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Thanks to you too Simon.

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#650383 - 04/06/21 04:09 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Snakebite]
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Giorgio, I looked up that MAudio unit on Sweetwater. It should work. Two inputs, if that’s enough.

I note it has a USB C connection. Unless your laptop is very new, you may not have a C port and would need an adapter.

What kind of mic? At this price point, the mic(s) you choose will make more of a difference than anything else. Where to put them also matters, but I’ll let those who record guitars comment on these last two ideas.
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#650517 - 04/07/21 12:37 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I note it has a USB C connection. Unless your laptop is very new, you may not have a C port and would need an adapter.


From what I could find, it looks like it includes both USB-A and USB-C cables with it. One link I saw said "Also compatible with USB 2.0" and another said "USB and USB-C connection cables included." So it should be fine, though I would double check with whoever you buy it from that it includes the right cables for you.
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#650574 - 04/07/21 05:27 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Snakebite]
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Yes, M-Audio makes sound cards that would be fine.
The Air 192 stuff is great. I use the Air 192|14: 8 x 8 over USB with 4 mic pres, 2 DIs, 2 Line Ins, MIDI, and 2 headphone amps for $329 or less. Fewer features cost less.
M-Audio Air

Most of the current interfaces are "Fast USB 2" including the M-Audio Air, Scarlett 3rd Gen, SSL, NI, Behringer but there a few are USB 3 interfaces and PreSonus makes TB3 interfaces.

USB-C is just a port, not a protocol. You can buy USB-C cables rated for USB 2, USB 3, USB 3.1/HDMI/DisplayPort, USB 3.2, Thunderbolt 3 and Thunderbolt 3/4. The higher ones are all backwards compatible; the reverse is most definitely not. Read the specs — fortunately, USB 2 are the least expensive. A faster cable will not change the performance but a slower cable than the unit requires can cause it not to work at all.

One thing to beware of is marketing BS that states a cable fits Thunderbolt 3 ports. Yea that… While technically true, since TB3 connects over USB-C, it's false advertising if the cable is not also rated for TB3. I wonder how many returns Amazon gets from I thought I was buying a TB3 cable… customers because of that.


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#650597 - 04/08/21 03:14 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Snakebite]
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Ciao a tutti,
ragazzi siete fantastici, la nebbia nella mia testa si sta diradando grazie ai vostri consigli. Io abito in Italia vicino Milano (Brescia) e come saprete siamo in pieno Lock Down a causa del COVID-19 quindi devo decidere se fare gli ordini di acquisto della scheda audio via Internet oppure aspettare che i negozi riaprano.
Comunque vi terrò informati e sicuramente vi chiederò altri consigli.
Matt, Simon e Mike mi piacerebbe sapere quali strumenti suonate e se è possibile vedere e sentire qualche vostra performance.

grazie infinite

Giorgio

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#650604 - 04/08/21 04:21 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Equipment to run Band in a box [Re: Giorgio60]
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ALL.
a reviewer of audio interfaces i like is julian krause who does very in depth tech analysis/testing of a product.
heres his review of the maudio air 192/4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-q41YOSl_Q
he has an interesting comparison chart for all the interfaces
which youll see flash up during a review.

he has many other reviews of various studio products.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0HrD4cTsQpAZ8KK9jPzzGg

in addition, this thread i started awhile back.
ie pg users itemise asio interfaces that work well with pg software.
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=635707#Post635707

if one cant afford the superb RME interfaces, and one is looking at 4 in /out usb mixers that are affordable with say 4 mic inputs i would test/rent either the allen n heath zed 10 series OR the soundcraft 12 fx from my research. (there are reviews on you tube etc.)

i bought a budget audient evo 4 (for short term use) , and so far been pleasantly surprised. its low 4ms latency and it hasnt given me any hassles yet. but its only 2 mic pres. and i like the sound. julian k also did a review of it.

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