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He always has something interesting to say.
Thanks for posting.
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Very good.
I would actually like to get a degree from Berklee if it wouldn't cost me a second mortgage.
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I would actually like to get a degree from Berklee if it wouldn't cost me a second mortgage. I've taken about a half dozen courses here in the past. It's much cheaper than taking them directly from Berklee and there are some auditing options if you don't want to spend much money. Pat Pattison is one of the instructors on the songwriting courses. Berklee at Coursera
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Several of my peers have tried to write a song with Pattison. The reviews weren't good, at all.
I'm of the opinion that while he often has/shares good suggestions or tips, there's too many people who take what he says as songwriting gospel - to be followed to the letter or be doomed to songwriting purgatory forever. So I suppose I have less of an issue with Pattison himself and more with the near idol-worship he sometimes gets.
I taught a commercial songwriting course at a local community college for a few years, and one point I stressed in every class was "I can't teach you how to write songs, you either can or you can't. If you can, I can show you some things that can possibly make you better. But if you can't write at all, I can't help you." That's been 100% true from what I've seen in my professional career.
I read Jimmy Webb's book on songwriting ("Tunesmith") when it came out around '93. By that time, I had already had a lot of cuts, but I was/am such a fan of his writing I read it anyway. A lot of it I didn't necessarily agree with or find useful/helpful (I've never believed in the necessity of perfect rhymes, for example). But I did pick up one thing that was solid gold, and I immediately started using it and have used it ever since. I think that's the proper application of any book or class on songwriting. Find something in it that is useful or helpful to you, and disregard the rest. Because as long as I've been doing this for a living, I never once had anyone hand me a book called "Rules Of Songwriting That You Must Obey".
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ALL.
my take on the crazy songwriting "bug" i have had all my life.
(and i'm NOT saying i'm good at it. i just love doing songs.)
i went through a period of self doubt/researching every songwriting tip and method and trick and course etc etc ; BUT i found i was gradually becoming more and more unhappy and hemmed in by all the rules etc etc. once i ditched it all and decided to just "keep myself happy" and do songs that i enjoyed; all my creativity returned.
thus i felt "free".
if other people end up hateing my songs. thats their prerogative.
otoh if people like them thats just grrrreat.
but i gave up worrying bout it years ago. because i think it can drive a song creator nuts.
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Several of my peers have tried to write a song with Pattison. The reviews weren't good, at all.
I'm of the opinion that while he often has/shares good suggestions or tips, there's too many people who take what he says as songwriting gospel - to be followed to the letter or be doomed to songwriting purgatory forever. So I suppose I have less of an issue with Pattison himself and more with the near idol-worship he sometimes gets.
I taught a commercial songwriting course at a local community college for a few years, and one point I stressed in every class was "I can't teach you how to write songs, you either can or you can't. If you can, I can show you some things that can possibly make you better. But if you can't write at all, I can't help you." That's been 100% true from what I've seen in my professional career.
I read Jimmy Webb's book on songwriting ("Tunesmith") when it came out around '93. By that time, I had already had a lot of cuts, but I was/am such a fan of his writing I read it anyway. …
I never once had anyone hand me a book called "Rules Of Songwriting That You Must Obey". Amen. If it was that easy, everyone could just do it, right? I agree that the craft can be improved with help but, if the basics aren’t there, no amount of classes, YouTube videos or books can make it happen.
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