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#654892 - 05/08/21 02:48 PM
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Beach of love
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Registered: 05/30/20
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Hello nice members of the biab, I have fallen behind in my comments on your compositions and I apologize for it. I will make up for this delay in the coming days. Here I submit to you an unfinished instrumental composition. For me, it lacks variations or it is too long. Your turn to judge. Thank you in advance for your advice. The style is ballad with guitar and mandolin. The construction is the same as for my previous instrumental compositions. I always use the Biab vst at the start. I am looking for midi arrangements that I am restructuring in the pianoroll of my daw studio one. Thank you in advance for your comments or advice on this instrumental composition. the link to this compo is : https://soundcloud.com/user-318966631/the-beach-of-loveThe link to my other compos is : https://soundcloud.com/user-318966631Kindly regard Derochette alis JaniJackFlash
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#654895 - 05/08/21 03:23 PM
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Re: Beach of love
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Here I submit to you an unfinished instrumental composition. For me, it lacks variations or it is too long. Your turn to judge. Thank you in advance for your advice. The style is ballad with guitar and mandolin. Well howdy Derrochete....(after (2) listens) More importantly, I enjoy all your compositions. They're easy to listen to and it's obvious that you spent time on them. Regarding the above: I would not consider this a 'ballad' even if you used the 'ballad' style. To me, this is a soundtrack composition and should be defined as such. There are thematic elements/phrases that could be revisited (motif) during the whole composition depending on how you decide to arrange it. In this context...yes...it could be shorter and a bit more organized. But, that is not a critique....just a subjective observation as I know nothing about composing an appealing soundtrack. (you do, though :)) IMO....the structure of an instrumental composition has to be well thought out to keep the listeners attention. Any perception of compositional rambling listeners could lose interest. Of course, you can totally ignore my thoughts.  As a composition, I like it. Hope that helps....keep up the good work.
Edited by chulaivet1966 (05/08/21 03:29 PM)
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#654898 - 05/08/21 04:05 PM
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Re: Beach of love
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I think this is a really great start to the instrumental! Keep up the great work.
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#654904 - 05/08/21 05:13 PM
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Re: Beach of love
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Yes this is a great start to a very good instrumental. I liked what I heard but I thought it was a little repetitious. Stopping around the 2:40 mark would be ideal IMHO. However as always your instrumentation and orchestration is spot on. YMMV
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#654933 - 05/09/21 06:20 AM
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Re: Beach of love
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Hi chulaivet1966,
Thank you for your analysis and your advice. It is true that it is too repetitive with little variation. I'm going to completely review this soundtrack and review the style to give away from ballads. Thank you again.
Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
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#654935 - 05/09/21 06:24 AM
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Re: Beach of love
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Hi Ember,
It is always an honor to see you comment on a composition and especially one of mine. It's nice to see the staff follow its members so ready and encourage them. A big thank you to the whole team and especially to you.
Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
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#654936 - 05/09/21 06:28 AM
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Re: Beach of love
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Hi MarioD,
I appreciate your analysis and thank you for the comment on soundcloud. I retain the fact of shortening this instrumental soundtrack to 2 min 40. I will review everything at the orchestration level to vary according to my possibilities and my inspiration. Thank you again for your advice.
Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
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#654944 - 05/09/21 07:39 AM
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Re: Beach of love
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very relaxing. Is the choir sound from BIAB? Did not know it could do that.Definitely nice as ambiance and relaxation. Good job
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#654979 - 05/09/21 09:45 AM
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Re: Beach of love
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Derochette,
A good composition. It works well as a "soundscape".
I did not find it to be "too long" at all. Enjoyable listen the entire time.
A good mix.
What are you using for the acoustic guitar?
fj
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#654998 - 05/09/21 12:29 PM
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Re: Beach of love
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Well chosen instrumentation, and this would make an ideal backing track, perhaps for a video or holiday slideshow etc.
Quite relaxing, although a little more variation would enhance the delivery.
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#655030 - 05/09/21 07:15 PM
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Re: Beach of love
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Love your songs. Love the way you mix them. Soundscape is deep and wide. Clarity and air in the music is so very cool...
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#655064 - 05/10/21 06:10 AM
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Re: Beach of love
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I'm afraid I have no help in setting you on the right course for this one, Derochette. It sure seems to show a vision of water rising from the bow, and at times the listener is ushered to the stern to enjoy the splash of the wake. Perhaps these visions are influenced by your cover photo and title, but then perhaps the music you created inspired your choices. It's a captivating ride. It was neither too long nor lacking in its variety of mood.
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#655081 - 05/10/21 08:23 AM
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Re: Beach of love
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I liked the complex arrangement upon a sparse melody. Worked great for me, did not feel unfinished. It will be interesting to hear your final product. Good work!
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#655103 - 05/10/21 09:26 AM
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Re: Beach of love
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I know nothing about composition so I will comment on what I know about - I like the tune. If is very pleasing and relaxing. The title says it all. Well done. Another song that would be perfect for a movie.
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#655117 - 05/10/21 10:57 AM
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Re: Beach of love
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Tasty bit of romance.
moto
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#655128 - 05/10/21 12:10 PM
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Re: Beach of love
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We also feel that it is very cinematic and would work for a variety of film themes.
As floyd mentioned we too are interested in the source of the acoustic guitar.
Lovely and well done!
J&B
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#655137 - 05/10/21 01:12 PM
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Re: Beach of love
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Hi ChadHC,
Thank you for passing over my soundscape. The choirs are from eastwest choir because they are easier to work with in the pianoroll with midi files.
Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
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#655143 - 05/10/21 01:45 PM
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Re: Beach of love
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Hi Floyd Jane,
It is a pleasure to read you and to answer your question. Before, let me explain my working method to you. Either I start from a biab realtrack and I extract the midi file, or I play myself as a wav file and with melodyn essential, I transform the wav file into a midi file.
After I apply a guitar vst. Here is the fabfour blackbird from Eastwest. All Eastwest products are relatively expensive except if and this is my case I took a subscription that gives me access to all their big sound libraries for $ 20 per month. And that gives me access to all types of guitars depending on the soundtracks I compose. I also bought two other vsts that I really appreciate. Realguitar of musiclab and IIya Efimov Guitar.
Thanks for stopping by to listen and comment.
Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
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#655144 - 05/10/21 01:50 PM
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Re: Beach of love
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Hi VideoTrack,
Thank you for coming and commenting and giving me your appreciation.
The melody is too long and I will limit it to 2min 30 to 3 minutes at the most. I'm thinking about variations in the last part to break up the monotony.
Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
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#655146 - 05/10/21 01:54 PM
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Re: Beach of love
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Hi Scott C,
I'm glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for the encouragement on soundcloud.
Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Edited by Derochette (05/10/21 02:02 PM)
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