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Hi,

I have a simple question that I would like to think has a simple answer.
I created a new Song in BIAB 2020 for Windows.
I set the Key to Dm
I go to the first measure and I type "i" as I just want to start writing my chord progression with a "Dm" chord. But instead I get as a result a "F" chord.
I know F is the relative major of Dm - and F would be the correct answer for "i" in F major - but I want to write in Dm and using Roman Numeral Notation is wonderful when you are experimenting with keys.

How can I actually use Roman Numeral Notation with minor keys?

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I found a thread I was replying to in 2019 that has the answer to an extent. I will paste an edited even easier to follow version here.

In short: you CAN make BIAB display the Roman Numeral Notation with relation to minor keys. Just do this:

Go to "Option" menu
Select "Preferences"
Click on the "Display" button.
UNCHECK "[ ] For Roman Numerals of Chords in minor keys, use relative major"

However, one issue remains: we must still enter the correct chord root and quality, i.e., sharp, flat, minor, major, diminished. BIAB does not "calculate" the chords for the selected key. If you just type "i" you get "D" in D minor.

You need to type "im" to get the actual "Dm". It would be nice if BIAB was able to calculate the chords for a given selected key - or at least have an option to do that. This leads me to a more advanced question:

Does BIAB2020 have an option that can "calculate" the chords based on the roman numeral notation of a given key, automatically?

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Does BIAB2020 have an option that can "calculate" the chords based on the roman numeral notation of a give key, automatically?

Not that I'm aware of. I can't recall any changes to roman numeral notation. Others may know more, but I looked and didn't find anything in the release notes for the 2020 or 2021 version.


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Hi Intini, Welcome to the forum and to Band-in-a-Box!

I have a curiosity question that has no bearing on your initial question; do you use Band-in-a-Box for Windows or Band-in-a-Box for Mac?


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Hi Intini,

Here's a post I wrote a couple of months ago that explains how BIAB uses Roman numerals in minor keys.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=646455#Post646455

It might give a little more insight.

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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
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Does BIAB2020 have an option that can "calculate" the chords based on the roman numeral notation of a give key, automatically?

Not that I'm aware of. I can't recall any changes to roman numeral notation. Others may know more, but I looked and didn't find anything in the release notes for the 2020 or 2021 version.


Thanks a lot. Perhaps they will add this feature in the future. It certainly rhymes!

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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
Hi Intini, Welcome to the forum and to Band-in-a-Box!

I have a curiosity question that has no bearing on your initial question; do you use Band-in-a-Box for Windows or Band-in-a-Box for Mac?


Thank you, Jim!
I use the Windows version of BIAB 2020.
I had a license for Mac before. But in 2018 Macs were too low on the cost/benefit ratio and I went PC all the way (i9-9900K, ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero, 64GB Ram, RTX-2080Ti, 8TB SSDs, 3 x 4K displays, etc.). Windows 10 is very stable and PCs are super flexible and highly expandable platforms.

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi Intini,

Here's a post I wrote a couple of months ago that explains how BIAB uses Roman numerals in minor keys.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=646455#Post646455

It might give a little more insight.

Regards,
Noel


Thank you, Noel! Very nice post!
I was actually being able to enter the correct chords. But I was wondering if perhaps BIAB 2020 would have an option in some of the many configuration windows that would enable an "automatic" chord calculator for a given minor key when using roman numerals.

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