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#666059 07/28/21 02:36 PM
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Angelic Dreams

The title says it all.

BiaB Style - Rendevous - Arpeggiated Ballad
Tempo - 60 bpm

I deleted the drums
Bass = Kontakt-Kirk Hunter Virtuoso Ensemble - 2x bass
Piano - Kontakt - Solid State Strings
Guitar - Kontakt - nylon string guitar
Guitar (copied track) - Kontakt - American Zither
Strings - EastWest - symphonic choir

I am playing the following via my MIDI keyboard controller:
Vocal lead - Kontakt - AVP (I forget which vocal choice)
Lead Viola - Kontakt - Kirk Hunter Lyric string quartet - Amati viola
Staccato strings - Kontakt-Kirk Hunter Virtuoso Ensemble strings
Long strings - Kontakt-Kirk Hunter Virtuoso Ensemble strings

I am trying to learn to mix songs with orchestra tracks so any constructive criticism is welcomed.


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Beautiful track Mario. Soothing and meditative. I really enjoyed it.
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Lovely work on this Mario! Nice job bringing the instruments in and out and with the swells on those synths! You are masterful at putting these type of songs together! Thanks, Torrey




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Very pretty song. You did good on the mix in my opinion.


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Hi Mario,

Yes this definitely sounds like Angelic Dreams - very smooth and restful.

Mix - all sounds good to me.

Well done.

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Mellow and soothing. Nice interaction between the vocal and the solo viola.

A tiny bit distracting that the vocal felt like it was in one space and the voila in another, but not a big deal.

The mix sounds balanced to me and I can hear everything clearly, so it works for me. Around 3:30 the backing strings could probably go down a notch.

Nicely done!


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Mario,

You should be scoring movies... A stunning track.

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I read the title and wondered how you would portray angelic dreams, pushed play, and WOW it really sounded like angels singing. Very creative and so well done, Mario. I was wondering about your process. Is it usually the same? Do you just write what you feel, then listen to it and come up with the title. This is another Mario Magic tune. Thanks.


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my goodness mario...
i hope you dont mind me saying that i hear a huge live massed choir singing along with this song arrangement . (maybe i'm biased as i was once in a massed choir.)
this is SO INVENTIVE. Melancholy ...but inventive.
as someone else said, you should be doing music for films.
well done.
om


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Originally Posted By: Sundance
Beautiful track Mario. Soothing and meditative. I really enjoyed it.
Josie


Thanx so much Josie.


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Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
Lovely work on this Mario! Nice job bringing the instruments in and out and with the swells on those synths! You are masterful at putting these type of songs together! Thanks, Torrey


Thanx for listening and commenting. I don't know about masterful but I love doing music like this.


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Originally Posted By: jptjptjpt
Very pretty song. You did good on the mix in my opinion.


Thanx jpt3.


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Originally Posted By: NigelSpiers
Hi Mario,

Yes this definitely sounds like Angelic Dreams - very smooth and restful.

Mix - all sounds good to me.

Well done.

Best Regards
Nigel


Thanx so much Nigel. I do struggle with trying to get a good mix on these types of songs so your comments about it make me feel like I am on the right track.


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Originally Posted By: dcuny
Mellow and soothing. Nice interaction between the vocal and the solo viola.

A tiny bit distracting that the vocal felt like it was in one space and the voila in another, but not a big deal.

The mix sounds balanced to me and I can hear everything clearly, so it works for me. Around 3:30 the backing strings could probably go down a notch.

Nicely done!


Thanx for the comments David, I appreciate them.

The vocal sound unfortunately has the reverb hardwired to the patch so there is no way to change that. I just tried to match that the best that I could but it looks like I have to try a little harder and/or find new angelic vocal patches sans the reverb.

Mixing is hard for me with these types of songs so your comments make me feel like I'm on the right path.


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Originally Posted By: rsdean
Mario,

You should be scoring movies... A stunning track.

Bob


Thanx Bob. I just like composing these types of songs.


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The New Age King strikes again!

A beautiful track. Mix sounds good.

Relaxing. Meditative.

Well done on all counts.

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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
I read the title and wondered how you would portray angelic dreams, pushed play, and WOW it really sounded like angels singing. Very creative and so well done, Mario. I was wondering about your process. Is it usually the same? Do you just write what you feel, then listen to it and come up with the title. This is another Mario Magic tune. Thanks.


Thanx Marty for these very nice comments.

Having a brain that is a half a bubble off center takes my workflow all over the place, thus it changes from song to song. For this piece I had an idea about how I wanted the song to sound. So I did the following:
1-choose a BiaB style
2-laid out some chords and generated the song.
3-revist the styles to determined if I had chosen the right style, for this one I did: I was lucky this time.
4-use the VSTi put all of the MIDI tracks into my DAW Studio One Pro 5
5-picked each track's sound
6-picked the lead sound and played it via my MIDI controllers.
7-played the other parts
8-repeated 5-7 until I got what I thought was the right combinations.
9-mixed all tracks in mono and/or dead center
10-panned the tracks to my liking
11-added track effect(s) where necessary
12-mixed all tracks again
13-added master effect(s)
14-mixed one last time then off to soundcloud.


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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
my goodness mario...
i hope you dont mind me saying that i hear a huge live massed choir singing along with this song arrangement . (maybe i'm biased as i was once in a massed choir.)
this is SO INVENTIVE. Melancholy ...but inventive.
as someone else said, you should be doing music for films.
well done.
om


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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
The New Age King strikes again!

A beautiful track. Mix sounds good.

Relaxing. Meditative.

Well done on all counts.

fj


Thanx so much Floyd. I greatly appreciate your comments.


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Really well done, Mario!

You really have the new age genre nailed I think.

Just a fabulous listen through the 'phones, enjoyed!

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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Really well done, Mario!

You really have the new age genre nailed I think.

Just a fabulous listen through the 'phones, enjoyed!


Thanx so much Dave.

I don't know about have it nailed but I do enjoy producing them.


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Well Mario whatever you're trying to learn here..sounds that you learned already!
Beautiful piece, very evocative indeed.
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Very pretty song Mario. I love this kind of music. Soul soothing. I think this was a very good mix. Loved the different instruments you chose. Well done


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Originally Posted By: cubanpete
Well Mario whatever you're trying to learn here..sounds that you learned already!
Beautiful piece, very evocative indeed.
Cheers

Mike B.


Thanx so much Mike. I'm still trying to learn all I can so I can produce better compositions.


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Originally Posted By: Scott C
Very pretty song Mario. I love this kind of music. Soul soothing. I think this was a very good mix. Loved the different instruments you chose. Well done


Thanx so much Scott.


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Hi Mario well thought out music peace!! excellent job love it thanks Eric


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It is indeed an audio dream, these audio instrumental tracks you create can be so relaxing and calming as its like a journey/ film score !!

Excellent !


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Hi Mario,

This is a very beautiful track and I think it quite well mixed and produced (although I am not an expert so others might have a different opinion).

Thanks for sharing,
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Very well done. You have the master touch putting such grand pieces together. Enjoyed this one.

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Mario,
Peaceful tune. Nice form. I like most of instrument choices except AVP pads? (I think) the aahhs.... It does not sound natural compared to other, more acoustic instruments. Also, in a few places strings start too brutal, I would ride them into the mix a little smoother. Otherwise, mix is very crisp. Those cool K.Hunter instruments sound very good. Fun playing. Crazy things you do with that wind controller. I tried going that route, but found fingering complicated. I hope one day they will make a simple recorder or melodica type instrument for lazy people like me. Thank you for sharing.

Misha.

P.S. Really cool waveform of the tune.

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Mario,

Angelic is such a good word to describe the mood and ambiance you’ve created with this lovely tune. Such a sweet production, everything fitting in together so well. Heavenly! No suggestions from me on the mix—sounds spot on to my ears.

Best regards to you and yours,

Deej

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Thanx so much Eric.


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Originally Posted By: beatmaster
It is indeed an audio dream, these audio instrumental tracks you create can be so relaxing and calming as its like a journey/ film score !!

Excellent !


Thanx for those very nice comments. I'm glad you enjoy them.


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Originally Posted By: Will Josef
Hi Mario,

This is a very beautiful track and I think it quite well mixed and produced (although I am not an expert so others might have a different opinion).

Thanks for sharing,
Will


Thanx so much for listening and commenting. I appreciate your comments.


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Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
Very well done. You have the master touch putting such grand pieces together. Enjoyed this one.

Charlie


Thanx Charlie. I'm not sure about that "master touch" comment but I do try. I like the fact that you can do a lot with BiaB and I try to take it in unexpected directions.


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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Mario,
Peaceful tune. Nice form. I like most of instrument choices except AVP pads? (I think) the aahhs.... It does not sound natural compared to other, more acoustic instruments. Also, in a few places strings start too brutal, I would ride them into the mix a little smoother. Otherwise, mix is very crisp. Those cool K.Hunter instruments sound very good. Fun playing. Crazy things you do with that wind controller. I tried going that route, but found fingering complicated. I hope one day they will make a simple recorder or melodica type instrument for lazy people like me. Thank you for sharing.

Misha.

P.S. Really cool waveform of the tune.


Misha, thanx so much for the comments. I agree about the AVP pads. They are old and I have decided to look into some newer ones. I'll take a look at the string sections.

You can record a recorder or melodica type instrument and convert it into MIDI via any monophonic converter. Melodyne is the best and the monophonic version isn't very expensive, $99 USD:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Melo5Ess--celemony-melodyne-5-essential

It also comes free with a number of DAWs.

IIRC RealBand can convert it also.


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Originally Posted By: Deej56
Mario,

Angelic is such a good word to describe the mood and ambiance you’ve created with this lovely tune. Such a sweet production, everything fitting in together so well. Heavenly! No suggestions from me on the mix—sounds spot on to my ears.

Best regards to you and yours,

Deej


Thanx so much for listening and commenting on my Angelic experiment.


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Beautiful melody and chording. The instrumentation is mellow and the arrangement has no distracting elements. The angels are surely dancing this in a heavenly ballroom and divine rays are filling the air.

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Nice work mario.
I don't do midi and only occasionally do orchestral parts.
I do watch/listen & learn form this chap though:

I don't take his courses - I just filter through & watch the stuff that I like which seems to relate to your suggestion request...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIcKkKID8k


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Originally Posted By: jannesan
Beautiful melody and chording. The instrumentation is mellow and the arrangement has no distracting elements. The angels are surely dancing this in a heavenly ballroom and divine rays are filling the air.

Janne


Thanx so much for this wonderful review.


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Originally Posted By: rayc
Nice work mario.
I don't do midi and only occasionally do orchestral parts.
I do watch/listen & learn form this chap though:

I don't take his courses - I just filter through & watch the stuff that I like which seems to relate to your suggestion request...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIcKkKID8k


Thanx so much.

You made my day with that video!

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How about an alliteration?

More. Mario. Magic.

Great performances by you.

Lovely and very cinematic and ready for the film sync libraries!

J&B

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Yes! A mellow and mellifluous Mario masterpiece. (As you can see, I like alliteration.) I enjoyed this very much.

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Very soothing Mario, your songs always carry me to heaven!

smile

Is that why you call it Angelic Dreams???

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Hi Mario,

It is a very vaporous composition in relation to the title. The solo violin is excellent. The variations are well thought out and create a very soft and very pleasant charm.

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Originally Posted By: Ezekiel's Storm
Yes! A mellow and mellifluous Mario masterpiece. (As you can see, I like alliteration.) I enjoyed this very much.


Thanx so much for this kind review and the trip to the dictionary!


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Originally Posted By: David Snyder

Very soothing Mario, your songs always carry me to heaven!

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Is that why you call it Angelic Dreams???


I'm glad David that my songs play a very small roll on your trip to heaven, a trip I know that you are on.

Angelic Dreams just came to me after I heard the backing tracks and the vocal.


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Originally Posted By: Derochette
Hi Mario,

It is a very vaporous composition in relation to the title. The solo violin is excellent. The variations are well thought out and create a very soft and very pleasant charm.

Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash


I'm glad that you liked this song. Thanx so much for this kind review.


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I aint been around lately, just catching up on some good songs.

This is a very soothing listen.

I like the way the instruments build .

Well done.

moto

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