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#671933 - 09/07/21 09:56 AM [Off-Topic] Solo/Duo players need advice
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My wife and I have a duo where we play mp3 backing tracks and sing/play along.
I'm using an android tablet with my mp3 files on it to play my backing tra CV is through our small pa system

What I'd like to do is find a way to advance through the set list (mp3s) track one, track 2, track 3 etc... with a foot switch instead of tapping on the screen.

I'm not talking about pdf files of the sheet music I'm talking about the actual mp3 files so as to play one song after another. I would have the mp3s arranged in the app in order of my set list.

Anybody doing this? What gear are you using? Android apps, pedal etc...

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#671964 - 09/07/21 12:37 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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You need to connect with Bob Notes Norton, who basically does this very thing. Not with a footswitch. But, he has a great method for performing with tracks in his Duo. Norton Music , there are some links there to how he creates his tracks and he has posted in these forums a few times talking about how he performs.
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#671968 - 09/07/21 01:12 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: etcjoe]
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Maybe he'll see this and chime in with some advice.
Just ordered a foot switch.
We'll see how it works out.
I switch between 3 different instruments during our show so any time saving device between songs will come in handy.

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#671997 - 09/07/21 03:34 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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Creating tracks isn't the issue.

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#672121 - 09/08/21 12:26 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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I've been in a duo since 1985, and until COVID, we were never out of work. In fact, we had to block out vacation weeks a year ahead of time, or we wouldn't get one.

I've gone through a few different ways to do this through the years, until I found the best one for us.

We don't do set lists. I watch the audience and call the tunes as I think they need. I try to give them the best experience.

For example, if they are dancing and look like they need another, I'll start another immediately (with my crowd 4 seconds is too slow). If they look like they are tiring, I can call a slow song. Or whatever.

If I need to, I can switch from one song to the next immediately, without missing a beat.

Here is both how I create tracks and how I use them on stage.

http://www.nortonmusic.com/backing_tracks.html

You can skip the "how I make them" part and scroll to the "how I use them on stage" part.

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#672127 - 09/08/21 01:33 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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I do exactly what you are describing.

Anytune Pro for setlist management/playback
Irig Blueboard Bluetooth pedal for controlling start/stop, next/previous, loop section in song.


Anytune runs on IOS Android and Mac OS.
Its the best piece of code for performing with tracks I've come across yet.
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#672343 - 09/09/21 07:49 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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You can use a boss rc 3 pedal and with a switch pedal select the song. Does not support mp3 but 3 hours of wav stereo yes.Read the short manual if you are interested, explains it there.
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#672387 - 09/10/21 09:13 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: Notes Norton]
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This is a question for Notes (I purchased BIAB from you many moons ago).

I recently switched from playing my BIAB backing tracks from a looper pedal to an android tablet. I'm using the headphone jack directly into my Boze L1 compact. It has an 1/8 inch stereo input which is a balanced analog input designed for connecting audio sources such as portable mp3 players,laptop computers, etc.

Could I improve my sound quality with a USB Audio Interface, and if so is there a current one you might recommend?

Thanks!!!

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#672424 - 09/10/21 03:00 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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Does the Android tablet have a USB port? This little guy is playback only, but it's got two balanced outputs and can be run in Mono or Stereo.


https://www.amazon.com/Peavey-3001370-USB-Audio-Interface/dp/B004A4PSEU


Much mo betta than a 1/8" plug.


Regards,

Bob

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#672430 - 09/10/21 03:15 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: 90 dB]
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Yes it does. Thanks 90 db!

However, I told by a sales rep from a popular on-line music dealer that any sort of interface would not improve my sound quality. He said I would have to enhance the actual audio file. Right now I'm using WAV files.

???

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#672433 - 09/10/21 03:53 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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If you're not actually recording, but just playing back, the Peavey box works a treat. As for "improving" your sound quality - are you happy with the sound of your WAVS now?


Regards,

Bob

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#672435 - 09/10/21 04:04 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: 90 dB]
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I am happy with their sound. But I'm always looking to improve sound quality if the Peavey will do that?

Thanks.

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#672437 - 09/10/21 04:23 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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That would depend on whether the Android HP output is balanced. I seriously doubt it.

If it's not, the answer would be yes.


Regards,

Bob


Edited by 90 dB (09/10/21 04:40 PM)

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#672518 - 09/11/21 07:01 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: Frank Alves]
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Originally Posted By: Frank Alves
This is a question for Notes (I purchased BIAB from you many moons ago).

I recently switched from playing my BIAB backing tracks from a looper pedal to an android tablet. I'm using the headphone jack directly into my Boze L1 compact. It has an 1/8 inch stereo input which is a balanced analog input designed for connecting audio sources such as portable mp3 players,laptop computers, etc.

Could I improve my sound quality with a USB Audio Interface, and if so is there a current one you might recommend?

Thanks!!!


I never use the headphone jack and always use a USB to Audio interface.

Why?

1) A non-static connection
2) Better sound - the USB-Audio has better highs and lows to our ears.

And I'm using a no-frills USB to Audio Edriol that I bought years ago. No knobs, no sliders, just a basic connection with a light to let me know if there is signal.

That means there is less to go wrong on the gig. Plus, I bring a spare -- just in case.

Notes


Edited by Notes Norton (09/11/21 07:02 AM)
Edit Reason: speling misteak
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#672539 - 09/11/21 09:23 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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NEVER the headphone jack.
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#672542 - 09/11/21 10:05 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: Frank Alves]
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What about going from the tablet to a portable mixer to the Boze?

Thanks.

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#672561 - 09/11/21 01:27 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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#672564 - 09/11/21 01:37 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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It’s hard to believe I’m saying this, but I agree with Eddie.

Never use the headphone jack.
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#672567 - 09/11/21 01:48 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: cb56]
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I don't want to get all technical on you experts.... But my live show (if I dare call my modest 1 man band effort a show) between 1998 and 2002 were all done with tracks and BIAB played from my laptop headphone jack to my PA - and the sound was fine. As good as my Desktop sound output via my DAW and audio device. So you can't say it can't be done. Heck some folks still believe that Albums sound better than CDs.
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#672569 - 09/11/21 02:13 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Solo/Duo players need advice [Re: Matt Finley]
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If not the headphone jack, then what would you recommend Matt?

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