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Imagine, like you could not imagine it #672643 09/12/21 03:19 AM Best of YouTube
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OP AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,311 Melbourne, Australia	His genius shines through, continually. This is no exception. Imagine, that you thought it could not get better. And then realize it could. Thanks Yohan for sharing your talent with all the world. So very inspiring. Link: On YohanTube BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #672668 09/12/21 05:30 AM Best of YouTube
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,229 Wauconda	OMG, you beat me to it. I was surfing Youtube this morn and of course stumbled on this. Have to love the reharmonizations and liberties taken to present this classic piece in this fresh manner. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it DrDan #672703 09/12/21 09:58 AM Best of YouTube
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OP AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,311 Melbourne, Australia	I was astounded at the introduction. What absolute class. Of course, what followed was a most sensitive, beautifully articulated performance of this classic masterpiece. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #672706 09/12/21 10:46 AM Best of YouTube
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sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,250 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	Maybe its me but hasn't he just turned a classic song with a 'message' into a piece of Elevator Music? I'll get my hat!! Bests Ian Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it sixchannel #672707 09/12/21 10:49 AM Best of YouTube
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OP AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,311 Melbourne, Australia	Ouch! That hurt BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #672739 09/12/21 03:20 PM Best of YouTube
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,330 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,330 North Carolina	Imagine a Sale at Macy's 50% off on the lip stick line Feel free to try on a negligee if you're vaccinated no need to stand in line Imagine all your girlfriends sharing the changing room Oh-oh-oh You don't have to be dreamer grab those coupons and have some fun every day is sale day in Macy's world and girls just like to have some fun... dun...dun...dun Imagine... David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it David Snyder #672748 09/12/21 05:10 PM Best of YouTube
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OP AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,311 Melbourne, Australia	Are you going to sing it and put it in the Showcase? If so, please give me advance warning. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it sixchannel #672750 09/12/21 06:08 PM Best of YouTube
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes Expert
Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: sixchannel Maybe its me but hasn't he just turned a classic song with a 'message' into a piece of Elevator Music? Yes. But frankly, that's what "Imagine" is to begin with, so it's not inappropriate. Don't get me wrong, I am an old-time ultimate Beatles fan and find some of John's solo work truly great. I can even listen to the early albums he did with Yoko! John Lennon is John Lennon. But I never understood the cultural fetish for this rather bland, superficial song, except that it's the kind of thing you become "immortalized" by when you die young. On its own, the music barely rates an "eh". And then there are those words. "Imagine no possessions"... I unfortunately can't forget Mark David Chapman's manifesto take on that, as he enumerated the many possessions John would have had to try very hard to imagine he didn't have. Something about a whole lot of incredibly expensive cows? And while I am by no means a religious person, that line about "and no religion too" never fails to annoy me, every time I hear it, because it's just such a painfully bad bit of songwriting. Sorry sorry sorry but I have never liked that song at all. Now I need to go listen to "I Am The Walrus"...

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it Mark Hayes #672751 09/12/21 06:48 PM Best of YouTube
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OP AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,311 Melbourne, Australia	The subject matter of the original post was to listen to the instrumental rendition performed by musician Yohan Kim. It was not intended to critique the original composer of the song or the lyrics used, or to invent substitute lyrics. That soon got lost. To each his own I guess. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #672775 09/13/21 02:04 AM Best of YouTube
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MountainSide Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,431 Lake Keowee, South Carolina	Well all that may be. Still he is an outstanding talent. The rendition shows deep insight into chords structures, progressions and harmonies. Talents I'll never have regardless of the song. Jeff Win11, Intel i7 7700K 4.2Ghz, 32Gb RAM, 2x1Tb HD, 500Gb NVMe, BIAB/RB 2025, MOTU 828MK3 audio, MOTU Midi Express, Yamaha Montage 7, DX7II, TX802, Motif XS Rack, Roland Fantom XR Rack, Oberheim Matrix 1000, VoiceLive3 Extreme, Kontakt 6, SampleTank 4.3

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #672785 09/13/21 03:30 AM Best of YouTube
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Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack The subject matter of the original post was to listen to the instrumental rendition performed by musician Yohan Kim. It was not intended to critique the original composer of the song or the lyrics used, or to invent substitute lyrics. That soon got lost. To each his own I guess. Nothing got "lost". What happened was a couple of people shared different reactions to the performance and the song.

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it MountainSide #672790 09/13/21 04:02 AM Best of YouTube
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OP AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,311 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: MountainSide Well all that may be. Still he is an outstanding talent. The rendition shows deep insight into chords structures, progressions and harmonies. Talents I'll never have regardless of the song. Jeff Thanks Jeff for keeping the focus on Yohan's delivery, and not meandering off with comments about lyrics etc that were never even a component of this instrumental performance. Others may be willing to criticize John Lennon's musical ability or his use of the words to his songs, or to substitute silly lyrics if they wish, but this thread was intended to be about the instrumental rendition of the song as performed by Yohan Kim, and nothing more. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #672791 09/13/21 04:03 AM Best of YouTube
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,229 Wauconda	Quote: The rendition shows deep insight into chords structures, progressions and harmonies. And therein lays the beauty of this performance. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #672800 09/13/21 05:02 AM Best of YouTube
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes Expert
Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack Thanks Jeff for keeping the focus on Yohan's delivery, and not meandering off with comments about lyrics etc that were never even a component of this instrumental performance. Others may be willing to criticize John Lennon's musical ability or his use of the words to his songs, or to substitute silly lyrics if they wish, but this thread was intended to be about the instrumental rendition of the song as performed by Yohan Kim, and nothing more. Is that really how this forum works? If you post a video, the thread is reserved for praise and thanks, and anything else is "off topic"? If so, I apologize for mistaking a tribute thread for an open discussion. I will point out, though, that Mountainside and MusicStudent have both contributed very positive posts to the thread this morning, so the "meandering" in question doesn't seem to have deterred anyone from liking this piece and expressing appreciation of it.

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it Mark Hayes #672810 09/13/21 06:04 AM Best of YouTube
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OP AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,311 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes Is that really how this forum works? If you post a video, the thread is reserved for praise and thanks, and anything else is "off topic"? Not at all. Criticize or praise the YouTube performance as much as you wish, whichever way you see it. Nobody had to like it, ever. I'll try to explain: What happens frequently is that a thread gets off topic. This thread was never intended to be about discussing the wealth of the original composer or any of his lyrics. It was about the instrumental performance of the song by Yohan Kim, which didn't even use any lyrics. So I feel that the discussion about the original composer's wealth and his choice of words as a 'painfully bad bit of songwriting' took the thread in a completely unintended direction. The intended study of the YouTube performance in question got 'lost'. However, if you wish, please feel free to start a separate thread on John Lennon's composing abilities or any other topic at any time. Have a great day. Peace. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #672824 09/13/21 07:42 AM Best of YouTube
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes Expert
Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack What happens frequently is that a thread gets off topic. This thread was never intended to be about discussing the wealth of the original composer or any of his lyrics. It was about the instrumental performance of the song by Yohan Kim, which didn't even use any lyrics. So I feel that the discussion about the original composer's wealth and his choice of words as a 'painfully bad bit of songwriting' took the thread in a completely unintended direction. The intended study of the YouTube performance in question got 'lost'. However, if you wish, please feel free to start a separate thread on John Lennon's composing abilities or any other topic at any time. Again, and this really is important: Nothing got "lost". I am aware of the phenomenon of thread drift, but this topic apparently recovered within hours (though the new topic of "posting manners" is threatening an upset.) If you had truly been worried that the discussion had been derailed, you could have simply posted another comment yourself on the desired themes. Your dictum "don't like it, start a separate thread" is unnecessarily snarky, and, honestly, makes we ask again: so, you're saying that if you post a video, the thread is reserved for praise and thanks, and anything else is "off topic"? Your territoriality and proprietary attitude here is disconcerting. This WAS a discussion of a video performance of "Imagine", an extremely well-known song by an extremely well-known composer that is a part of many people's shared musical worlds, for lots of different reasons.

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #672834 09/13/21 09:47 AM Best of YouTube
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sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,250 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	As Billy Joel sang "I didn't start the fire." Or did I? I simply felt that the performance viewed,even with its somewhat 'interesting chords at times was underwheming even if considered 'clever'. I am a big Beatles fan and also of some of their indivdual works. Of an age and location then when I could and did go to the ORIGINAL Cavern Club. The new 'fake' Cavern has less atmosphere than Mars. One mans meat etc etc - - Sorry, Trev. Bests Ian Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #672841 09/13/21 11:02 AM Best of YouTube
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David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,330 North Carolina	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack Ouch! That hurt So with this comment, VideoTrack, I honestly thought you were laughing at the musak comment. That triggered my creative nature to try and come up with some lyrics that would fit a musak version. Those lyrics were my comic offering, as I often try to make people laugh in world where dictators drool their oatmeal on their blazers and terrorists crawl across the New Jersey line with rocket launchers. But, I promise, I will never, ever, ever make a joke on the forum again. I will, however, Give Peace a Chance. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #674042 09/20/21 02:03 PM Best of YouTube
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rayc Veteran Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,953 Cooran Queensland Australia	Somnambulism thy name is Jazz Styling of Old Pop Music. Lush intro drops back to basics then builds to more lushness: making it clear that the basic melody and stripped back arrangement fitted best. It's the sort of thing, in a pop sense, I associate with McCartney...to me it comes across as indulgence and mawkishness. Maybe without the OTT arrangement it would be better...probably not to my ears though. I know heaps of people love jazz interpretations of pop and Kenny Gness in general. I'm not a minimalist or opposed to stylized interpretation - after all Cocker, and many others, brought side Two of Abbey Road to life - but I'm no fan of THIS style of thing. Excellent musicianship, no doubt, inside out knowledge of chords, no doubt, broad appeal, no doubt but the arrangement could've been for a Bing Crosby Xmas Special. Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe

Re: Imagine, like you could not imagine it AudioTrack #674232 09/21/21 05:38 PM Best of YouTube
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rayc Veteran Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,953 Cooran Queensland Australia	I did go and watch/listen again. My thoughts haven't changed. The sound actually reminded me of the power of BIAB so I found a midi file of the song and tried two BIAB styles. I didn't export and mix in a DAW didn't add the dynamics of the stripped down section or the BIG string parts but BIAB very easily covered the general feel and sounds. I didn't do anything to the MIDI melody track apart from chose an "instrument"...it's a very stilted reading of the melody which, clearly, is the opposite of the chap playing in the original post. When using the style picker I found jazz didn't quite get me there - I had to add lounge. I know from my 5 minutes sweep through the MIDI world that it's filled with soft/smooth/lounge/cabaret/dinner interpretations of classic songs which means the chap would certainly gain an audience amongst midi musicians if heard widely enough. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) IMAGINEavoidsynthloungefunk.mp3 (7.57 MB, 4 downloads) Loungejazzfunk IMAGINE Eb Chicago Light.mp3 (7.57 MB, 9 downloads) Eb Chicago light Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe

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