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#675002 - 09/26/21 10:17 AM
[Songwriting]
Re: "Violation of Third Party Rights"?
[Re: colinb1]
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Loc: Houston, Texas
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After reading through this thread, it strikes me that if this bot inanity continues, most C&W and Blues tunes that have been written since the beginning of time will be flagged for copyright infringement. Am I wrong?
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#675031 - 09/26/21 01:25 PM
[Songwriting]
Re: "Violation of Third Party Rights"?
[Re: Mike Halloran]
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[quote=justanoldmuso]
i guess the game is the automated bots throw
up a million challenges, and hope a few people
pay up. am i correct ? is that the game ?
am i correct in thinking if someone decides
to fight back via eula or other means, the
bot moves on ?
best to you.
om Sounds like it has turned into a typical shady lawyers' game, Mike, with challenges and threats being used to basically extort. I recently watched The Death of Melody for the second time. In the conclusion, it goes into Billboard #1 hits that have melodies of two or three notes -- Taylor Swift, rappers, among others. Makes you think.
Edited by edshaw (09/26/21 01:26 PM)
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#675174 - 09/27/21 03:25 PM
[Songwriting]
Re: "Violation of Third Party Rights"?
[Re: cooltouch]
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Loc: Sillie Con Valley, California
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After reading through this thread, it strikes me that if this bot inanity continues, most C&W and Blues tunes that have been written since the beginning of time will be flagged for copyright infringement. Am I wrong?
The bots I'm familiar with are looking for titles and, more importantly, samples. A freely available sample is used in something and, Bingo, you get notified. The only way to fight it is to explain why the notice is wrong and be very specific with your details. Otherwise, you can lose in many ways including possible loss of your YouTube, SoundCloud or BandCamp channel. With church groups, a piano part might be used in a Youtube video. The accompaniment is in public domain and the track is uploaded by, say Hymnody.com with a clear notice that anyone can use it — so you do. Then the Brazilian publisher bot flags it as being under Copyright under a different title by (Christian artist name you've never heard of). You find the guy's recording on Youtube and, sure enough, he has a song using the same melody but he isn't even using that piano track and (here's the best part) his words, though different, are also in the PD. Hymn tunes, like blues licks are recycled constantly once in the PD. This gives those [*****] their opening. Fun, huh?
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#675177 - 09/27/21 03:34 PM
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Re: "Violation of Third Party Rights"?
[Re: colinb1]
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So I was in church just before communion and the preacher said:
"What the %F$J*K&*$^%$^% is wrong with those B^*&^CVX^&(*&^*(&^ in GGJ^*&^*&%$% in Brazil and those ******** G676%% ing bots?"
And I stood up and said:
"Preach, you should read the B&&*&(*%$@)I(******** stuff they are saying on the Band in a Box forum about this."
And the P&W director said:
"^HBV$*****^^*&VHBVGH&*** I have had enough of this H**&%^&*^%$$***** I'm calling *&(*&HKLKLVB*** ASCAP."
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#675479 - 09/29/21 01:59 PM
[Songwriting]
Re: "Violation of Third Party Rights"?
[Re: David Snyder]
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So I was in church just before communion and the preacher said:
"What the %F$J*K&*$^%$^% is wrong with those B^*&^CVX^&(*&^*(&^ in GGJ^*&^*&%$% in Brazil and those ******** G676%% ing bots?"
And I stood up and said:
"Preach, you should read the B&&*&(*%$@)I(******** stuff they are saying on the Band in a Box forum about this."
And the P&W director said:
"^HBV$*****^^*&VHBVGH&*** I have had enough of this H**&%^&*^%$$***** I'm calling *&(*&HKLKLVB*** ASCAP."
Holy S***!
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#677567 - 10/12/21 08:04 PM
[Songwriting]
Re: "Violation of Third Party Rights"?
[Re: colinb1]
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Loc: Sydney, Australia
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I believe I may be having a similar issue with a track on CD Baby - although they haven't told me exactly what's going on yet, because they are slow to respond. But they did tell there's an "issue" with one of my tracks. Supposedly something matched in their database. Of course it could be a false positive, but it would be extremely helpful if they actually tell me exactly what the problem is!
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#677730 - 10/13/21 10:16 PM
[Songwriting]
Re: "Violation of Third Party Rights"?
[Re: colinb1]
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I'm going through the same thing with two songs on YouTube. Never happened before. It is ridiculous. The melody and lyrics are totally different, only the chord progression is the same, and they can't own a chord progression. The company creating this mess is: Associated Production Music LLC. The chords are from a BIAB Bluegrass Demo. There was no melody or lyrics on it other than solos and I didn't use any solo lines for my melody. Here's one they're trying to take from me. https://youtu.be/TQ29WPRLLds
Edited by jbrad52 (10/13/21 10:17 PM)
Edit Reason: Description of the link
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