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#687778 - 12/03/21 05:25 PM [Off-Topic] another ingenious music scam
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Or.... how a non musician collects royalties on hundreds of songs he didn't write.

If this doesn't make you mad......

There's no upfront money..... Run!

https://youtu.be/zk872ERRVxA


Edited by Guitarhacker (12/03/21 05:27 PM)
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#687918 - 12/04/21 06:15 AM [Off-Topic] Re: another ingenious music scam [Re: Guitarhacker]
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The gatekeepers have always exploited the artists.

So many one-hit-wonders of the past never made a penny on their hit records. Out of their royalties, the labels took inflated recording, distribution, and promotional costs. They assigned 'ghost writers' to share the writing royalties that never wrote a note or lyric, and the demanded the publishing rights as well.

Gallery owners take over half the price a painting sells for.

The theater makes a mint, while the ballet troupe makes so little they can't hire real musicians but go with a recording.

It's because artists love what they do, and generally don't have a lot of business sense. Business people love what they do and they know as much about business theory as the best musicians know about music theory.

But, I love what I do and wouldn't be as happy as the non-musician business person.

How about you?

Notes ♫
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#688153 - 12/05/21 06:25 AM [Off-Topic] Re: another ingenious music scam [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Pat Donahue wrote a parody to Would You Like To Swing on a Star, called Would You Like to Play the Guitar. One line about a manager was "because he's good at business and he knows your not". Sums it up.
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#688203 - 12/05/21 08:12 AM [Off-Topic] Re: another ingenious music scam [Re: Guitarhacker]
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#688221 - 12/05/21 08:40 AM [Off-Topic] Re: another ingenious music scam [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Or.... how a non musician collects royalties on hundreds of songs he didn't write.

If this doesn't make you mad......

There's no upfront money..... Run!

https://youtu.be/zk872ERRVxA



Herb - thanks for posting this incredible story. Warms the cockles of my heart. grin

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#688265 - 12/05/21 10:06 AM [Off-Topic] Re: another ingenious music scam [Re: 90 dB]
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When is the Starmaker Machine going to be featured again? I missed out on the last offer. frown
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#688280 - 12/05/21 11:04 AM [Off-Topic] Re: another ingenious music scam [Re: 90 dB]
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That's the one.
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#688281 - 12/05/21 11:07 AM [Off-Topic] Re: another ingenious music scam [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
When is the Starmaker Machine going to be featured again? I missed out on the last offer. frown



Funny you should mention that, Jim. As a matter of fact I am working on a new scheme...uh...program with a MAJOR MUSIC BUSINESS BUSINESS PUBLISHER in California as we speak! So just stand by.....Starmaker is about to release STARMAKER "PRO", A NEW AND EXITING scam, er.... program for the truly professional writers out there.


We will be announcing the roll-out as soon as the ink dries on the bono fide certificates given to each participant in this EXITING NEW PROGRAM!


Regards,

Col. Bob

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#688330 - 12/05/21 02:37 PM [Off-Topic] Re: another ingenious music scam [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Hopefully the bono fide certificate includes a shiny gold seal. Ya' can't prove you're the best if the certificate doesn't have the gold seal.
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#688444 - 12/05/21 10:48 PM [Off-Topic] Re: another ingenious music scam [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
Hopefully the bono fide certificate includes a shiny gold seal. Ya' can't prove you're the best if the certificate doesn't have the gold seal.


And nice calligraphy.
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#688530 - 12/06/21 07:48 AM [Off-Topic] Re: another ingenious music scam [Re: TRYUK]
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and gilded edges. If it ain't fancy I don't want it.
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