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Yes, I have deleted it in Chrome. Nothing I do seems to remove it permanently. It's not that I never want to use Bing but I hate uncommanded actions.

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LOL, it's not in my life. All Google here..... Can you be more specific on where it's coming up? I believe in Chrome you may need to disable an extension or something.




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Perhaps I have it fixed. There are two settings in "search engines used in the address bar" and "manage search engines"

I deleted Bing a long time ago. I failed to put Google in the search engine used in the address bar.

I will use it for a while to see if Bing is still coming up.

In the past, I would go to the Google search bar and search for "XYZ" and it would take me to Bing.

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I thought you meant this Bing.

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I use neither Goggle nor Bing.
They both give very biased search results.
DuckDuckGo & Ecosia are both more private and less spammed. Ecosia donates an huge amount to tree planting annually.


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I thought you meant this Bing.

The smooth voice comes from the amount of grease in his hair I suspect.
Did a lot for recording technology but eeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.


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I use Startpage, it gives you the results from a Google search but blocks Google from seeing who you are.

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I use Firefox as a browser and either DuckDuckGo or Startpage as search engines.
I think you can't totally avoid Bing on Windows as Microsoft use Edge and Bing from their applications. Personally I avoid both Google and Bing because of the depth of tracking ... I have nothing to hide, I just find it offensive.

FWIW, my usual platform for most things is Xubuntu Linux and I never see probably Bing from there. AFAICS, swapping to a Mac just means swapping Bing tracking for Apple tracking.

Something else I do is set my browser to purge all cookies when closing. Generally when I'm using any deep tracking sites like those search engines or social media, I first close and restart the browse, use the site(s), then close and restart the browser again.


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Using Ad Guard and the DuckDuckGo Privacy extension in Safari helps keep the tracking down.

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Like Gordon, I use Firefox as a browser and Startpage as search engine.

You can't actually 'get rid of Bing' as it's included as part of the MS Windows O/S (the same way as the worst browser ever made was, i.e.: I.E.), but you can disable it.

With the above settings, I never see it, but I now it's still there.


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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott
FWIW, my usual platform for most things is Xubuntu Linux and I never see probably Bing from there. AFAICS, swapping to a Mac just means swapping Bing tracking for Apple tracking.


Different levels of reality, with the same relevant choices available.

The default Mac browser is Safari, which offers this choice of search engines:

Google
Yahoo
Bing
DuckDuckGo
Ecosia

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By the way, about the other Bing.

Reading up on his contributions to recorded music has made me aware of something I'd never really considered before.

Until quite recently in musical history, there was just no such thing as soft, gentle, quiet singing.

It all had to be loud, so everyone could hear you.

I imagine lots of singers heard how they sounded while singing alone, practicing, trying to keep it down to not disturb others, and thought "hmmm wouldn't it be neat if I could sing like this in concert" but of course they couldn't, without amplification.

Then amplication came along and you could sing into a mic as softly as you wanted, and this was a radical new sound. So out with Al Jolson, in with Der Bingle. Interesting!

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it's included as part of the MS Windows O/S (the same way as the worst browser ever made was, i.e.: I.E.)


Nowadays it is called Edge and is a much better browser. Believe it or not some of my Mac based programmers use it as a default, since it is a Chromium browser with decent developer tools.

I'll give you that it is still tied into the Microsoft OS for some compatibility reasons, but IE is going away (finally).
From MS -
'The Internet Explorer 11 will be retired and go out of support on June 15, 2022. '
You can still install it until then, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. <grin>


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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott
FWIW, my usual platform for most things is Xubuntu Linux and I never see probably Bing from there. AFAICS, swapping to a Mac just means swapping Bing tracking for Apple tracking.


Different levels of reality, with the same relevant choices available.

The default Mac browser is Safari, which offers this choice of search engines:

Google
Yahoo
Bing
DuckDuckGo
Ecosia


I think you missed his point. I think he is talking about the OS not the browser.
Apple vs MS .. both track you
Browser tracking is a whole different issue
If you get Bing tracking out of your life by going Mac, you get Apple tracking instead

It really doesn't matter though, everything you do on the internet can be tracked, it's kind of part of how the internet works. Computers passing data along from Node to Node, server to server, and finally to your computer .. if you don't trust the OS you shouldn't ever choose to go on the internet, once you think about it.

Example A -
Website gets hacked and personal info is compromised.
Owner of said server hosting this website is required to provide data of how/who did this to the appropriate authorities.
To do this logs are required, and by law in most countries.
"I dunno, I turned logging off" is not an acceptable answer unless you are willing to due the time for the crime.
I've been in the unfortunate spot to have to do this.
You are tracked (accept it), it's the tradeoff for the convenience.

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//I inherited said site, so not my fault, just my problem to deal with
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FWIW, my usual platform for most things is Xubuntu Linux and I never see probably Bing from there. AFAICS, swapping to a Mac just means swapping Bing tracking for Apple tracking.

Different levels of reality, with the same relevant choices available.

The default Mac browser is Safari, which offers this choice of search engines:

Google
Yahoo
Bing
DuckDuckGo
Ecosia

I think you missed his point. I think he is talking about the OS not the browser.
Apple vs MS .. both track you
Browser tracking is a whole different issue
If you get Bing tracking out of your life by going Mac, you get Apple tracking instead


Again, different levels of reality.

Bing is a search engine. Some have concerns about it and prefer alternative search engines. Search engines do web-based tracking the way lots of websites do, mainly via cookies.

Apple is an operating system. What kind of "Apple tracking" are you thinking of?

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I hope you are not serious
Or maybe you honestly don't know

I'll err on the side of the second one
Does your OS tell you when to update?
Does it check in with your computer while you sleep?
How does it know to do this?

Since the original thread pertained to the 'default search engine', I could just leave this link here.
Apple 'sells' it's default setting.
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/google-apple-default-search-engine-safari-pay-usd-15-billion-iphone-ipad-mac-2021-microsoft-bing-2520582

As a developer I (among many) was very happy to hear about the demise of IE, and to be honest, most of hope Safari is next, for many reasons.
Far as I know, every browser allows setting the default search engine (and home page), but Apple has actually accepted billions over the years to make the Mac default Google, just like MS makes the default Bing .. at least they keep in house I guess, but either choice is a tradeoff, like I said earlier


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Does your OS tell you when to update?

Yes, or it just updates itself automatically.

Originally Posted By: rharv
How does it know to do this?

My Mac periodically checks with Apple to see if there's an update to MacOS.

That's not "tracking" in the sense that Google and Bing do it.

Though I guess if Apple favors Google as the default search engine you could call that "Apple tracking" in a very extended sense.

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That's not "tracking" in the sense that Google and Bing do it.

See above link regarding Apple and Google
It's not 'favors' but accepts billions
For Apple products the default search engine is Google, which was what this original post pertained to.
You can skate around this if you want, but that was what I meant.
Bing being the default isn't much different than Google as far as tracking ..
like I and others have pointed out, you can change this in your browser, but it is still the default (and simply a tradeoff)



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Glad to see you get what I was saying now
My question to you would be why does Apple do this?
If they do this, what else do you think they might do that you haven't really thought about?
The fact they accept money for this, and know why, tells me they probably get the same info somehow.
MS uses Bing and keeps it in house (like I said), but none of this is worth arguing over; you get tracked when you log in, you get tracked by your cell phone when you drive around .. we are all tracked and I'm not that worried about it.
Nag screens are a different issue, as a side effect of this, but I don't mind being shown relevant ads as opposed to random ones.
I'd rather see an ad indicating I have an interest in synths than some random viagra ad, but maybe that's just me.

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the Mac default Google, just like MS makes the default Bing

And Firefox also defaults to Google.


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