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The Gates of BabylonYou sit alone at the table, while I take my coffee in bed
Our happy home's just a no-man's land where even angels refuse to tread
Angry words fall silent now that we've said much too much
I hold back my hurt inside;
You hold back your touch
I could scale the Zagros mountains, or be covered by salty sea
But I can't bridge this emptiness dividing you from me
Close your eyes and pray for sleep, but prayers fall on deaf ears
We hold our breath and count the hours until the morning sun reappears
Lost without direction, unwilling to turn around
Falling apart together, divided on common ground
I could scale the Zagros mountains, or be covered by salty sea
But I can't bridge this emptiness dividing you from me
So many bridges burned, too many chances gone
Now that we've been turned away at the gates of Babylon
I could scale the Zagros mountains, or be covered by salty sea
But I can't bridge this emptiness dividing you from meRealTracks364 - Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev065 366 - Bass, Electric, Country Ev 065 891 - Piano, Acoustic, Solo Accompaniment PopLiverpool Ev065 897 - Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Rhythm FolkRock Ev16 065 908 - Bass, Electric, SmoothBallad Ev16 065 910 - Piano, Electric, Rhythm SmoothBallad Ev16 065 1074 - Piano, Electric, Soloist SmoothJazzBallad delay Ev16 065 1543 - SynthPad, PopBelieve Ev16 065 1676 - Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking CountryBrent Ev 065 1064 - Trumpet, Soloist SmoothJazzBallad Ev16 065 Main Vocal: SynthesizerV (Eleanor Forte AI) Backing Vocal: SynthesizerV (Solaria, Eleanor Forte AI) Trumpet; WIVI Band (Trumpet) Signal ChainMaster Buss: Lurssen Mastering Console (American Tight (Less Glue)) Lead Vocal: Greg Wells VocalCentric (Lead Vocal) Background Vocal 1: Lead Vocal: Greg Wells VocalCentric (Lead Vocal) Background Vocal 1: Lead Vocal: Waves Doubler, Greg Wells VocalCentric (Lead Vocal), Reaper Delay Vocal Reverb Buss: LX 480 Essential (Joe C Vocal Warm Ballad) Piano: EZMix (Piano) Chorused Piano 1: EZMix (Very Stereo Wet Chorus) Electric Piano Lead: Finisher Retro (Suitcase Panner) Bass: EZMix (Bass Clean) Trumpet Solo: ReaVerb (Jazz Hall) Trumpet Solo: WIVI Band (Trumpet), ReaVerb (Jazz Hall) BackstoryThis is a remix of a song I posted in 2014. The original version was done with Vocaloids, and while the result was pleasant to listen to, I always wanted to re-do it. Since SynthesizerV could import the Vocaloid files, it should be simple enough... right? It would be, if I would stop re-doing the mix. Listen, tweak, listen again, tweak some more... render out and listen again. Lather, rinse, repeat.  As usual, the mix is a work in progress. The trumpet solo is actually a mix of the WIVI Band trumpet and a RealTrack. Comments of any sort are encouraged! 
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Hello David
that sounds great
Everything fits together wonderfully
The trumpet sounds really good and reminds me
of a well-known song, but I can't think of it ;-))))
Many greetings
Andi ;-)
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Very impressive, David! Love the trumpet. And the vocals are sounding pretty good indeed! I'm waiting for them to offer a deep male voice with a bluesy feel so I won't need to sing on my songs anymore  Good song, enjoyed!
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"Lost without direction, unwilling to turn around
Falling apart together, divided on common ground"
A beautifully written song. SUCH sadness!
The synth voice is well done and has SOME emotion - but I would love to hear this sung by a "real singer with chops" - to really bring those emotions home. It's a real tearjerker.
The production is nicely supportive. Doing what it needs to and not "getting in the way".
The trumpet is a nice choice.
Nice mix.
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Beautiful write!
You continue to amaze me with the vocals.
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Very nice sad song oozing emptiness. Really beautiful melody, reminds me, as usual, of APP. Very good work with Eleanor, although I hear some boominess in her voice, maybe low cut would help, don't know. I've been listening to Solaria songs lately just to make sure she's worth buying, so I probably pay too much attention to the smallest details  Excellent instrument selection, very smooth and the trumpet soloist works very well. Janne
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Hi David, What a lovely song! The music is beautiful and this Vocaloid is so much better than the synth voices used to be. It almost sounds human. We agree with Floyd however, that a human voice might perfect it. A real singer could sing "before or after the count" for instance. Don't know if that's the right expression in English. We mean: not one syllable exactly on one beat, but just before or after it. It makes the melody more lively. But... a treat to the ear ! Rob and Anne-Marie
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David, you are a master of AI vocals. They are starting to sound very organic!
Super lyrics, arrangement, and mix.
Outstanding trumpet!
Super song.
I just posted a selfie and all of the responses were get well soon!
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A beautiful production... great work David.
Trumpet Solos sound terrific.
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dcuny.
my goodness your a production talent.
truly amazes me....includeing all the clever song touches.
kudos mate.
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David,
Smooth arrangement. Nice poetic lyrics and amazing effort putting all this together. Trumpet sounds great. I think vocals are not leveled throughout the song. At times, it seems they overpower everything else. Don't hold me to it, maybe I am hallucinating. Thank you for sharing.
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that sounds great
Everything fits together wonderfully Hi, Andi. Thanks! The trumpet sounds really good and reminds me of a well-known song, but I can't think of it ;-)))) As long as it only reminds you of a well-known song, I'm safe.  Thanks for listening and commenting!
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Very impressive, David!
Love the trumpet.
And the vocals are sounding pretty good indeed! Hi, Dave. Thanks! That's about half me on MIDI and half Band in a Box on the trumpet. The first half of the BiaB solo was a jazzy riff that didn't fit at all, but the second half was perfect. I was surprised how well the two different instruments blended here. The end solo is all BiaB. Love the trumpet! I'm waiting for them to offer a deep male voice with a bluesy feel so I won't need to sing on my songs anymore Ha! The male voices are really lacking, so you're safe for now. Thanks for taking the time to listen and the positive comments!
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A beautifully written song. SUCH sadness! Hi, floyd jane. Thanks, it's one of the few songs that I'm really happy with the lyrics. The synth voice is well done and has SOME emotion - but I would love to hear this sung by a "real singer with chops" - to really bring those emotions home. It's a real tearjerker. All right, I'll start giving it some serious consideration. The production is nicely supportive. Doing what it needs to and not "getting in the way".
The trumpet is a nice choice.
Nice mix. It's always good to hear that, especially from you. I haven't quite learned to trust my ears, but I'm working on it. Thanks again - I appreciate your feedback!
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Beautiful write!
You continue to amaze me with the vocals. Thanks, Captain!
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Very nice sad song oozing emptiness. Really beautiful melody, reminds me, as usual, of APP. Since I'm a big APP fan myself, I'll take that as the compliment it is. Very good work with Eleanor, although I hear some boominess in her voice, maybe low cut would help, don't know. I've been listening to Solaria songs lately just to make sure she's worth buying, so I probably pay too much attention to the smallest details I thought that's what details were for - to pay attention to! I'll have another listen and see if I can hear the low end. It may be the other voices that are causing the issue as well. Thanks for your close attention!
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What a lovely song!
The music is beautiful and this Vocaloid is so much better than the synth voices used to be.
It almost sounds human. I know what's coming... We agree with Floyd however, that a human voice might perfect it. OK, OK... I get it. Don't expect something right away, though! A real singer could sing "before or after the count" for instance. Don't know if that's the right expression in English. We mean: not one syllable exactly on one beat, but just before or after it. It makes the melody more lively. I know exactly what you're saying. The sad thing is, that's actually what I've done here - nudged the notes around the beat by an 8th or 16th note. But a real singer can do the same thing and make it sound natural and musical. Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment!
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David, you are a master of AI vocals. They are starting to sound very organic! I don't know about that - I heard a demo posted the other day that sounded almost good enough to fool floyd jane! Super lyrics, arrangement, and mix.[
Outstanding trumpet!
Super song. Thanks! I appreciate the kind words.
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A beautiful production... great work David.
Trumpet Solos sound terrific. Hi, bloc-head. The brass in BiaB are a real treat to work with! And thanks for the kind words about the production.
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my goodness your a production talent.
truly amazes me....including all the clever song touches. Hi, om. I'm glad you enjoyed the song.
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Smooth arrangement. Nice poetic lyrics and amazing effort putting all this together. Hi, Misha. Thanks! I think vocals are not leveled throughout the song. At times, it seems they overpower everything else. Don't hold me to it, maybe I am hallucinating. Thank you for sharing. No, you're absolutely right about that. I have difficulty figuring out where to back down on the vocals. Add a refusal to listen to reference tracks to the mix, and the result is what you hear. I'll have another go at the vocal balance and try to fix it. Glad to have your constructive feedback!
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There's so much to like here. Very pleasant melody. Interesting, poignant lyrics and carefully crafted vocals and trumpet combine to create a soothing vibe. Well done!
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Dang, that's a sad situation. What a wonderful melody and a terrific arrangement, David. Such a good write, and, man, you work those AI voices so well, and the trumpet is perfect.
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David,
I wasn't around here when you did the first one, but I do know that this sounds great! Your use of the AI voice is fantastic! Wish I could sing that good! It's a beautiful track and melody! I didn't realize that there weren't any drums until 2 minutes in and that means that they aren't needed. It really gives it the mellow feel it needs! Very nice! Thanks, Torrey.
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The AI voice even has sibilance...wow.
the vocal work is excellent - well done sir.
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Certainly the vocals shine in this production for the use of synthesized productions. The backing vocal is an especially nice touch.
The trumpet provides a complementing interlude.
Great job indeed.
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Wow David, you are coming closer and closer to real human vocals everytime. That's a huge achievement!
The composition is very lovely, though sad.
So funny what Ray mentioned about the sibilance in the vocals. I noticed it too, but it wasn't disturbing at all.
I was wondering if you could use Melodyne on those vocals as well. Because there you can change about anything in them, so differ them more in harmonies. And you are more clever on the pc, so a piece of cake?
Very well done!
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If I may comment on something other than the synthetic singing... I was noticing how very nice the sound bed underneath was, the stuff that supports the horn solo, too, I guess it's a combination of keys and acoustics. That stuff that isn't in the spotlight, but it's really important to the overall effect. A pleasure to listen to and thanks for helping to understand how it all works.
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There's so much to like here. Very pleasant melody. Interesting, poignant lyrics and carefully crafted vocals and trumpet combine to create a soothing vibe. Well done! Thanks, Brian!
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Dang, that's a sad situation. Hi, Marty. Yep. Don't worry, it's not a representation of my life... Current life, anyway. What a wonderful melody and a terrific arrangement, David. Such a good write, and, man, you work those AI voices so well, and the trumpet is perfect. Thanks, I really appreciate that!
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I wasn't around here when you did the first one, but I do know that this sounds great! Thanks, I don't feel as guilty about re-posting it now. Your use of the AI voice is fantastic! Wish I could sing that good! It's a beautiful track and melody! I didn't realize that there weren't any drums until 2 minutes in and that means that they aren't needed. It really gives it the mellow feel it needs! Very nice! Heck, I wish I could sing that good! It's a good thing programs like Melodyne exist - they're worth every penny! For this arrangement, the BiaB instruments play well together, giving the song a gentle push. It's not often that I can get away without drums, and this is one of those exceptions. I'm glad you stopped by to listen!
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The AI voice even has sibilance...wow.
the vocal work is excellent - well done sir. Hi, Ray. Yes, it does. I leveled most of the plosives, but I left most of the /s/ and /sh/ sounds alone. I might have another listen to them, though. I've got a lateral /s/ myself, so I've occasionally gone too far and created a lisp where there was one. So if the consonant isn't popping out, I'll often err on the side of clarity rather than reducing it. Thanks for listening and commenting!
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Certainly the vocals shine in this production for the use of synthesized productions. The backing vocal is an especially nice touch. Thanks! I'm still trying to work out that balance here. This is one of the few songs where the backing vocal simply doubles the vocal, instead of adding harmony. Sometimes I forget how effective that can be. Thanks for the feedback!
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Wow David, you are coming closer and closer to real human vocals everytime. That's a huge achievement! Hi, Hans. Thanks, but I suspect the software is doing more of the work than me. Not that I'm not trying! I'm really picky about phrasing, but adding "realism" is a different animal. The composition is very lovely, though sad. Yeah, writing happy songs pretty songs is tough!  So funny what Ray mentioned about the sibilance in the vocals. I noticed it too, but it wasn't disturbing at all. This stuff is really subjective. Looking at the waveform, the /s/ looks huge. But despite what it looked like, I didn't think it sounded that unbalanced against the vocal. So I opted to leave it be, but I certainly understand where he's coming from. On a different day, I'd have made a different decision. I was wondering if you could use Melodyne on those vocals as well. Because there you can change about anything in them, so differ them more in harmonies. And you are more clever on the pc, so a piece of cake? One of the nice features about the Pro version of SynthesizerV is that you can opt to split the voice into a voiced and unvoiced track. That makes it a lot easier to see and edit the consonants in my DAW. And the options in Melodyne to modify the formants already exists in SynthesizerV. So there's need to go into Melodyne for that, either. But you could certainly use Melodyne if you wanted to. Thanks for listening and your questions!
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If I may comment on something other than the synthetic singing... I was noticing how very nice the sound bed underneath was, the stuff that supports the horn solo, too, I guess it's a combination of keys and acoustics. That stuff that isn't in the spotlight, but it's really important to the overall effect. A pleasure to listen to and thanks for helping to understand how it all works. Hi, Mark. Yes, I was really happy with how the backing fit together. Looking at the original mix, I wonder if I've actually learned that much from eight years ago. I suspect it's the tools that have gotten better, not me.
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Another outstanding offering. I didn't hear the original so this is my first spin of the record. Very well written song. The girls perform your material wonderfully, yet again. The band is great too.
Top notch production.
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"I could scale the Zagros mountains, or be covered by salty sea
But I can't bridge this emptiness dividing you from me"
Janice said she teared up when first hearing that.
It is a most outstanding write in lyric and melody.
The band is perfecto for the above. Great work with the two trumpets.
The melding is amazing.
The vocal is as Janice said "sweet and fragile sounding and it conveys the lyric so well."
We're not gonna go down the human vs AI rabbit hole. This is what you do and it is very entertaining musically and technically.
We've heard a zillion great voices and love them but this journey you are on is fascinating. And it just gets better and better and better...
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Hi dcuny,
Very nice melody with well written lyrics. The trumpet is really very realistic. Well done. I apprecied.
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Beautiful song, everything about it is great, what a mix.
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Beautiful song, David. You are very good at tuning. I can only hope I will reach your level one day.
In the future I think we will discuss realism of an AI-voice less - focus will be on the timbre, expression, soulfulness and feel of a voice (or of the real singer who is behind the voice).
Synthesizer V is a truly amazing piece of software.
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Thanks for your so complete answer, David!
I use Melodyne occasionally for the background vocals. In my last song (After All v6) it worked out very nice. I never use it on my own voice. I also never use pitch corretion, maybe one of these yearsI have to...
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Another outstanding offering. I didn't hear the original so this is my first spin of the record. Very well written song. The girls perform your material wonderfully, yet again. The band is great too. Thanks, Sean!
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Janice said she teared up when first hearing that.
It is a most outstanding write in lyric and melody. That's the best I could hope to hear! Thanks! The vocal is as Janice said "sweet and fragile sounding and it conveys the lyric so well." I'm glad it worked for Janice. I know there's a huge gap between what a real singer could do, but I think the technology is to the point where it's able to make a fair approximation of what the song should be. I'd originally used the AVANNA Vocaloid to sing this, and she's got a very ethereal voice. But the Vocaloid wasn't really up to the task of being understandable, to say nothing about emoting. This comes a lot closer to what I had in mind, I find that I'm able to shape the phrasing - or at least the timing - a lot more than I could would the Vocaloid. This is what you do and it is very entertaining musically and technically.
We've heard a zillion great voices and love them but this journey you are on is fascinating. And it just gets better and better and better... Thanks for that. It's an interesting tool, and it helps me do things that I'd ordinarily have a lot of difficulty doing if I was restricted to using my own voice. Probably the worst thing about using it is that it makes it so much harder to work on my own vocal synthesis program, since I'm light-years away from being able to achieve in terms of quality.  But it sure helps in getting more songs done!
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Very nice melody with well written lyrics. The trumpet is really very realistic. Well done. I apprecied. Hi, Derochette. Since half the trumpet is a real trumpet, that's a good good to hear. But hopefully it's difficult to tell which half is which! Thanks for stopping to comment!
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Beautiful song, everything about it is great, what a mix. Hi, Ronnie. I'm happy to hear that. I'm always tweaking the mix, but hopefully it's not too far from where it needs to be at this point. Thanks for the kind words!
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Beautiful song, David. You are very good at tuning. I can only hope I will reach your level one day. Hi, Will. Don't worry - between and increasing ease of use and better AI, each iteration of SynthV seems to be getting better and better with less and less effort. In the future I think we will discuss realism of an AI-voice less - focus will be on the timbre, expression, soulfulness and feel of a voice (or of the real singer who is behind the voice). Yes, it'll be interesting to see what kind of control we'll have over the voices. I suspect that anyone who already knows how to sing - even badly - will have a leg up on that. Much like even knowing a little bit about how to play an instrument allows you to create better mock-up using samples. Thanks for commenting!
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I use Melodyne occasionally for the background vocals. In my last song (After All v6) it worked out very nice. I never use it on my own voice. I also never use pitch correction, maybe one of these years I have to... For me, using pitch correction is a bit of a crutch. It's always best to go back and sing it right. Sometimes I just get lazy. Or I'll decide after the fact that I want to change the phrasing, so I'll just time-stretch my vocals instead of singing them again. And because we're so used to hearing over-tuned vocals, I suspect that makes it easier to accept computer generated vocals. That is, after being so used to having the life squashed out of vocals by auto-tuning them, digital vocals with pitch issues start to almost sound more human than human vocals!
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