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#709388 - 03/18/22 08:04 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles
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I've been successfully producing kids music using BIAB for over 20 years now. And in that time I've never missed an update, finally going whole hog a few years ago with the Audiophile option. (which is really worth it, BTW)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLy6-72NzYpFztbJ7jNEMkg

BIAB is a simply amazing and indispensable tool. Especially of use to me have been the folky, bouncy styles. The one style that I've used the most, but which needs a major upgrade is the Rehearsal Piano which was produced by PG Music way back in 2010. The timing is a bit wonky, and the audio quality is dated and not up to par with the pristine newer styles.

I would LOVE to see a full style set of Ragtime, early jazz solo accompaniment piano in multiple styles, tempos, and feels. Think Piano for silent movies. Mister Dressup and Mr. Rogers-ish. And the cornier the better! smile

Thanks for reading and I hope some other users will get behind this idea to gain a little traction.

Cheers, and many thanks to PG Music for this superb program.



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#709410 - 03/18/22 11:17 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles [Re: Chrispennington]
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+1

There are many useful older MIDI styles that would benefit from an update. Solo, rehearsal, ballad, march are some of the styles that come to mind.
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#709463 - 03/18/22 04:03 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
+1

There are many useful older MIDI styles that would benefit from an update. Solo, rehearsal, ballad, march are some of the styles that come to mind.


I agree.

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#709581 - 03/19/22 12:45 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles [Re: Chrispennington]
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If PG Music is looking for an artist who does this, I have a friend who does this genre. He knows his stuff - he's a copyist for Hal Leonard, performs piano for silent movies, and is a fine jazz and classical player too. He's amazing.
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#709921 - 03/21/22 12:37 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles [Re: Chrispennington]
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Hi Chris, can you post a few youtube links of the kinds of things you have in mind?

thanks,
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#709946 - 03/21/22 03:11 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles [Re: Chrispennington]
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Hey Tobin, thanks for getting back so quickly!

Mr. Dressup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07u0_2TOpio

Various Hal Roach tunes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiOap0cgaaA

Ragtime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPmruHc4S9Q

Basically early jazz with simple left hand and not overly sophisticated voicings. A little bit of "stride" would be nice too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSNPpssruFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PxsQ1I_HKw

Early 20th century popular song styles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSNPpssruFY

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#709948 - 03/21/22 03:18 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles [Re: Chrispennington]
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The current real styles available in this vein are all from 2009 and 2010

RT1097: Piano, Acoustic, Rehearsal Waltz Sw 085 , Miles Black
RT1096: Piano, Acoustic, Rehearsal Showtunes Sw 085 , Miles Black
RT936: Piano, Acoustic, Rehearsal Waltz Sw 140 , Miles Black
RT940: Piano, Acoustic, Rehearsal Showtunes Sw 140 , Miles Black

I've used these styles probably more than 100 times in various arrangements. BIAB has come a long way since those early Real Styles days, so I'd love to hear styles like these, but with better switching, improved audio quality, more variation, etc. Another problematic foible with these styles is that all the shots and holds are in mono, while the main arrangements are in stereo.

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#709949 - 03/21/22 03:26 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles [Re: Chrispennington]
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And finally, if it's not too greedy to dream big...

Some simple classical piano styles would be very useful. Waltzes, marches, early barocque period etc.

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#710072 - 03/22/22 11:07 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles [Re: Chrispennington]
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Hi Chris, thanks for the examples!

For the classical ones, youtube examples would also be very useful, keeping in mind that, while classical piano pieces would of course have specific melodies, the best examples would be ones that could sort of be "shoehorned" into chording-only styles.
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#710172 - 03/23/22 07:36 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles [Re: Chrispennington]
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Agreed that classical styles are very dependent on melody. What would be nice to see is a revisiting of the original "classical" BIAB midi styles that came out 20 or more years ago, but with "real" tracks.

PNOSIMP4.STY.
PNOSIMP3.STY.
SATIORK4.STY.
ORKALB34.STY.
ALBERTI.STY.
MARCH_16.STY.
CHOPIN_W.STY.

Etc.

Now that BIAB's horns are sounding so good, it would be great fun to see a library of Marches a la Souza. With clarinets, trombones, trumpets, military drums, and glock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-m3XHUSN08


smile Stop me!


Edited by Chrispennington (03/23/22 07:37 AM)

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#710200 - 03/23/22 10:14 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Wishing for new Ragtime Rehearsal Piano styles [Re: Chrispennington]
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I would rather have MIDI styles updated to utilize new Band-in-a-Box features like microchords over the suggestion to replace older MIDI styles with RealStyles. RealStyles and RealTracks have their place but so do MIDI styles.
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