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#715808 05/06/22 02:38 AM
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In the chord builder, after I clicked jazz, I found that it became a 7th chord. However, fm becomes fm6
In many songs, I don't find fm6, I often see fm7
So, why write an fm6 here?

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Never mind these charts. Try it. Does it sound good?

A m6 chord gives a ‘mysterious’ sound. Used sparingly, it can be very effective.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Never mind these charts. Try it. Does it sound good?

A m6 chord gives a ‘mysterious’ sound. Used sparingly, it can be very effective.



Since I'm just starting to understand this now, I'm more concerned about whether it's correct.
I know the iv in C minor should be Fm7
And showing fm6 here, I find it very strange. So ask.
Regarding the sound, I think the sound design here is not good, because it is not a piano, it is more like a ringtone, and every time I click, the sound changes, and the sound is not fixed, which annoys me. Ha ha


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
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I know the iv in C minor should be Fm7
And showing fm6 here, I find it very strange. So ask.


Where did you find that the iv in Cm should be Fm7?

Way back in the early 60s when I was learning music theory the 6 was the jazz version of a triad. Thus in jazz C was played as C6 thus Fm6 sounds logical to me. There were/are very few triads in jazz as most all have some kind of extensions.

As Matt said how does it sound? If it fits your song then it is OK. That is all that matters.

One thing you must understand is that there are very few, if any, music "rules" that are in stone. There are no absolute chord rules or chord progression rules that I am aware of, everything is up to the individual. For instance I was taught that it takes three notes to make a chord but then came the two note power chord.

Note by chord rules I mean what extensions one should use with a triad. There are rules on forming chords like a triad must be 1-3-5 of a major scale etc.


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Your last point about the sounds was just addressed in your other thread, by someone from PG Music.

What I’m saying here is that music has no ‘correct’. It has creativity and sometimes beauty, or not. These charts only give you suggestions of chord progressions that should work. That does not mean this will be good music. Sometimes you need to break the rules and just ask yourself, does it sound good?

And about those rules, are you familiar with a parallel minor scale (starts on the same note as its major scale but with a different key signature). It’s not a relative minor scale. And there are others. This is all music theory. Learn it, then consider if you always want to follow it.


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OK! thanks to MarioD and Matt Finley. grin

I'll keep trying. This hint of common chords helps me a lot, as I'm researching other songs and often find these chords coming up.
Now that they are here, I can imitate and then break through to find what works for me.


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Studying songs is a great way to learn. Just expect that, in the great ones, you may sometimes find the unexpected that won’t fit a rule. That’s part of the fun!


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Studying songs is a great way to learn. Just expect that, in the great ones, you may sometimes find the unexpected that won’t fit a rule. That’s part of the fun!



Yes. I was surprised to find so many other chords.
In the end, I realized that these other chords are also commonly used chords.
I've never listened to Paul McCartney before, I've been listening recently, looking at the chords in it, and it's great.


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In a jazz style a bass player would "normally" play the sixth as a bass note and the chord then becomes a Dm7b5 headed towards a G. (another V - 1 progression). A "true" Fm6 played over an F bass is pretty rare.

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Regarding the sound, I think the sound design here is not good, because it is not a piano, it is more like a ringtone, and every time I click, the sound changes, and the sound is not fixed, which annoys me. Ha ha


This is not correct. I hear a not so bad, midi piano. In fact it sounds a bit like a bass playing the root note independent of the piano and full octave or two down with upper notes clearly on piano.

But here is whats cute. grin The menu is split between top and bottom sections. The selection on the top are activated whey you click on them. But the selections on the bottom activate only when the click is released. Not when you click but when you let go of the click. crazy

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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent

This is not correct. I hear a not so bad, midi piano. In fact it sounds a bit like a bass playing the root note independent of the piano and full octave or two down with upper notes clearly on piano.

But here is whats cute. grin The menu is split between top and bottom sections. The selection on the top are activated whey you click on them. But the selections on the bottom activate only when the click is released. Not when you click but when you let go of the click. crazy


You are quite right, indeed.
I can arrange common chords here, which saves me a lot of time.
This design is better than what Scaler does.


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