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Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717154 05/16/22 02:02 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	Well here I am being all glib again. There was so much wrong with that video it is hard to discribe. That is not the way the program is supposed to behave. Five minutes I will never get back again. But if Adar puts his eyes on it that is your best bet for getting it straightened out. By the way, did you try my configurations for Reaper? Cause I see you have the Audio outs all messed up (IMO) which can be fixed in the configuration settings. I really do hope Adar can point you in the right direction. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717157 05/16/22 02:27 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP gegu Enthusiast G Joined: May 2022 Posts: 35	Hi , For Reaper , I have tried the "dummy" audio driver with same results Last edited by gegu; 05/16/22 02:28 PM.

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717194 05/17/22 06:33 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP gegu Enthusiast G Joined: May 2022 Posts: 35	hi , same conditions , crash occured after only three generations : Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) vsthost64_biab_vst2.png (18.02 KB, 129 downloads) vsthost64_biab_vst2 Last edited by gegu; 05/17/22 06:34 AM.

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717206 05/17/22 07:54 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP gegu Enthusiast G Joined: May 2022 Posts: 35	A video with reaper ( crashed at second generation) : reaper_biab_vst2 Window Event Wiever : Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) reaper_biab_vst2.png (16.6 KB, 120 downloads) reaper_biab_vst2 Last edited by gegu; 05/17/22 08:06 AM.

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717211 05/17/22 08:05 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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MoultiPass Expert Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,681	Rendering : Separate ...(Try to) Disabled (Default) Biab Audiophile 2025 11.28 Win

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717213 05/17/22 08:12 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP gegu Enthusiast G Joined: May 2022 Posts: 35	Hi , Crashed almost immediatly unfortunately ... (both in Reaper and Vsthost64) For Reaper , I prefer using separate outputs to equalize each track live (sent to jamtaba plugin) Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Untitled.png (18.42 KB, 117 downloads) vsthost64_biab_vst2 Last edited by gegu; 05/17/22 08:34 AM.

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717220 05/17/22 08:54 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	Those download vudios are freaking out my computer.... are you in eastern Europe? BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces DrDan #717223 05/17/22 09:01 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP gegu Enthusiast G Joined: May 2022 Posts: 35	I am from Paris , France , and I have been living here for 60 years

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717273 05/17/22 11:11 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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rayc Veteran Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,959 Cooran Queensland Australia	Gegu, what version of Reaper? I don't have to go through much effort to load PG Music BIAB onto a track. It won't have any impact but you should synch the tempos. Have you checked the folder generated files are saved to? It may be going beyond it's nominated size...probably won't help either but worth checking. That was a lot of regenerating...I don't do any changes or regenerations within Reaper as I feel much more comfortable doing the grunt work in the main BIAb prog...but I understand it was to get you to the crash point. Don't worry about negativity - it's the change to Lake Michigan water that has seen the rise & rise of the curmudgeon estate. Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717280 05/18/22 01:45 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP gegu Enthusiast G Joined: May 2022 Posts: 35	Hi , Reaper version is 6.57 , but the problem exists also with another daw (Vsthost) , on two computers running Windows 11 (maybe this OS is more tricky about certain errors ?) ,and it can happen at the FIRST generation too. Syncing the tempo before generating song does not help I have checked disk space on both computers , it is OK I have taken care to restart the computer before testing (but not always) I am using the BIAB plugin as it permits to generate songs then play them without putting them on tracks (by just hiting the "play" button") , and I am using Reaperfor the jamtaba plugin (playing guitar on the internet live with an backing track fed directly by the BIAB plugin) Anyway , let the developers investigate.

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717281 05/18/22 01:57 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Originally Posted By: gegu .. I am using the BIAB plugin as it permits to generate songs then play them without putting them on tracks (by just hiting the "play" button") , and I am using Reaper for the jamtaba plugin (playing guitar on the internet live with an backing track fed directly by the BIAB plugin) You can try it with Rewire, you don't have to use the Reaper script with it. Just load the RewireVST into Biab then select Reaper. https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=251311

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717286 05/18/22 03:44 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP gegu Enthusiast G Joined: May 2022 Posts: 35	The Biab rewire control GUI crashes too Anyway , it is not as practical as using the plugin inside Reaper

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 gegu #717305 05/18/22 09:43 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP gegu Enthusiast G Joined: May 2022 Posts: 35	An error that occured while the DAW was idle : Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) reaper_idle_biab_vst2.png (16.88 KB, 80 downloads) reaper_idle_biab_vst2

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 gegu #717309 05/18/22 10:53 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Navid Syed Enthusiast N Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 51	after a while I upgraded my BIAB 2022 with latest VST only to realize it is crashing my cubase 12 pro not loading songs which are saved in standalone BIAB??

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 traces gegu #717314 05/18/22 12:11 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Originally Posted By: gegu The Biab rewire control GUI crashes too Anyway , it is not as practical as using the plugin inside Reaper Is it the actual Rewire64Vst that crashes if so it's maybe Win11 issue: Watch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zu9hnipkjseu5n3/Reaper-Biab-RewireVST.mp4?dl=0

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 Navid Syed #717402 05/19/22 06:51 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,813 Winston Salem, NC USA	Originally Posted By: Navid Syed after a while I upgraded my BIAB 2022 with latest VST only to realize it is crashing my cubase 12 pro not loading songs which are saved in standalone BIAB?? It's best to start a new post detailing your specific issue. Piling one report on top of another means your report may not get the attention it deserves. Check out +++ THIS +++ post and +++ THIS +++ post for suggestions about log files you can attach to your post that will help Adar, the main plugin developer, identify and fix the issue. Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 gegu #717416 05/19/22 09:13 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP gegu Enthusiast G Joined: May 2022 Posts: 35	Hi , I got this error while loading the BIAB plugin in VstHost : Created VSTSynthFont64 instance 1 host=band-in-a-box getOutputProperties 0 getOutputProperties 2 getOutputProperties 4 getOutputProperties 6 getOutputProperties 8 getOutputProperties 10 getOutputProperties 12 getOutputProperties 14 getOutputProperties 16 getOutputProperties 18 getOutputProperties 20 getOutputProperties 22 getOutputProperties 24 getOutputProperties 26 getOutputProperties 28 getOutputProperties 30 getOutputProperties 0 getOutputProperties 2 getOutputProperties 4 getOutputProperties 6 getOutputProperties 8 getOutputProperties 10 getOutputProperties 12 getOutputProperties 14 getOutputProperties 16 getOutputProperties 18 getOutputProperties 20 getOutputProperties 22 getOutputProperties 24 getOutputProperties 26 getOutputProperties 28 getOutputProperties 30 Initialising VST: VSTSynthFont64 (2.0.0.0) (2778.4c54): Invalid handle - code c0000008 (first chance) First chance exceptions are reported before any exception handling. This exception may be expected and handled. ntdll!KiRaiseUserExceptionDispatcher+0x3a: 00007ff8`c8167eda 8b8424c0000000 mov eax,dword ptr [rsp+0C0h] ss:00000000`0013ef70=c0000008 the rendering plugin loaded by bbw4_64.exe was : E:\vstplugins\64 bits\PG Music\Band In A Box\VSTSynthFont64.dll (version 3.4.3.1) Last edited by gegu; 05/19/22 09:56 AM.

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 gegu #717437 05/19/22 12:34 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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rayc Veteran Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,959 Cooran Queensland Australia	I still don't understand why you need to use VSTHost in Reaper. It seems unnecessary and the potential problem. Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 Pipeline #717440 05/19/22 12:59 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Originally Posted By: Pipeline ..You can try it in KV Element in Reaper load element as a vst3 plugin then drag and drop the BBPlugin into it, hook the in/out up then click the EXT top left to sync it. VSTHost is old that's why I suggested trying in Element as this fixed all the crash problems I was having in Reaper, so I think it is worth a try. You can also try https://jstuff.wordpress.com/pluginflipflop/ KV Element with BBPlugin in Reaper:

Re: VST2 and VST3 plugins (4.5.33 build) song generation still crash Reaper on Windows 11 Pipeline #717445 05/19/22 01:19 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP gegu Enthusiast G Joined: May 2022 Posts: 35	Sorry, maybe I was not clear : Vsthost is a standalone like Reaper , I tried it to see if the issue is only with Reaper Btw , with Reaper , I have tried a minimal project with only one track containing the BIAB plugin , same issue Another test was with Coyote VST (1.0.0.1) instead of VstSyntFont64 , same issue Fwiw, the most common error encountered is heap corruption in the BIAB plugin Would it be worth generating a song with only audio tracks (assuming that the synth vsti would be loaded but not used in this case ...) ? Last edited by gegu; 05/19/22 02:02 PM.

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