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convert #717290 05/18/22 04:47 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 103 United Kingdom Roycol OP Apprentice
OP Roycol Apprentice Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 103 United Kingdom	I've been converting a load of files from 8 character file names to 'lon' file names. There is a large bunch that when I click on convert, all it does is adds a second extension. I have tried all sorts of things, renameing etc. Any ideas? Roy Geekom Mini-pc Intel i5-8259U 16,0 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 11 pro Acer V15 Laptop Intel i5-5257U 16,0 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 10, x64 Acer 5750 Laptop Intel i3-2310M 6.00 GB RAM 64-bit operating system, x64

Re: convert Roycol #717301 05/18/22 09:15 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,018 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,018 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	“Long” file names? Could you tell us what program you are using to convert the names? If it’s Windows, please describe the steps. Thanks. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: convert Roycol #717315 05/18/22 12:11 PM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 103 United Kingdom Roycol OP Apprentice
OP Roycol Apprentice Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 103 United Kingdom	The program is built into BIAB, it's under file, utils (I think), convert to long file names. Roy Geekom Mini-pc Intel i5-8259U 16,0 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 11 pro Acer V15 Laptop Intel i5-5257U 16,0 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 10, x64 Acer 5750 Laptop Intel i3-2310M 6.00 GB RAM 64-bit operating system, x64

Re: convert Roycol #717363 05/19/22 02:23 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO J Joseph Land Expert
Joseph Land Expert J Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO	Roy: I put 2 files in a 'test' directory to play with. One I named BMR1.sgu and the other I named BMR2.sgu These were the actual file names on the hardrive. Both had 8.x filenames. In BIAB, BMR1 I named "Beaumont Rag in C" and saved it, still as BMR1.sgu. I then opened up BMR2 and named it BMR2 in BIAB. See the screen shots. I then used the utility to auto rename both of them to long files names. The result was that BMR1.sgu was automatically named to "Beaumont Rag - Guitar - " but the other file, BMR2.sgu kept the same name "BMR2.sgu". I believe in actuality that it was renamed since the utility grabs what is in the Title Box and changed the file name in the computer to match. Since BMR2 was what the 2nd file was named as in BIAB, the utility just renamed the 2nd file to BMR2.sgu again, since that was what it was named in the program. All that being said, concerning the files that are NOT being renamed, do those have the names populated inside the BIAB program as what you want them to appear as after the utility is run? Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) bmr1.jpg (87.53 KB, 127 downloads) bmr2.jpg (79.61 KB, 127 downloads) BIAB2025 Windows 10 Pro WA6NCB No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!

Re: convert Roycol #717376 05/19/22 04:44 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 103 United Kingdom Roycol OP Apprentice
OP Roycol Apprentice Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 103 United Kingdom	Yes I know all that. I have about 500 files to rename with song title. For example, it renames them from 2LATBABY.sgu to 2LATBABY.sgu.sgu I have found if I open the file and re-save it, it works ok, its too many to open/save, is there a utility to open & save all files in a folder? Roy Geekom Mini-pc Intel i5-8259U 16,0 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 11 pro Acer V15 Laptop Intel i5-5257U 16,0 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 10, x64 Acer 5750 Laptop Intel i3-2310M 6.00 GB RAM 64-bit operating system, x64

Re: convert Roycol #717379 05/19/22 05:15 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO J Joseph Land Expert
Joseph Land Expert J Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO	Can you supply one of the files so others can test it? BIAB2025 Windows 10 Pro WA6NCB No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!

Re: convert Roycol #717382 05/19/22 05:31 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,680 MoultiPass Expert
MoultiPass Expert Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,680	https://www.advancedrenamer.com/ Biab Audiophile 2025 11.28 Win

Re: convert Roycol #717384 05/19/22 05:34 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO J Joseph Land Expert
Joseph Land Expert J Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO	I do remember this problem from a long time ago and started looking in my collection of songs. Just found something interesting. I have an old collection of jazz songs that have file dates of 1991, about 532 of them. All of them have double extensions. For example: 2LATBA~1.SG4.SG4 2_5_ON~1.SG1.SG1 4STRON~1.SGB.SGB 500MIL~1.SG4.SG4 502BLU~1.SG8.SG8 52NDST~1.SG1.SG1 AFROBL~1.SG8.SG8 AFTPAR~1.SG1.SG1 AF_FLO~1.SG1.SG1 AIREGI~1.SG1.SG1 ALEXRA~1.SG1.SG1 ALICEI~1.SG8.SG8 ALLBLU~1.SG8.SG8 ALLINL~1.SG9.SG9 ALLMYT~1.SG1.SG1 ALLOFY~1.SG1.SG1 ALLTHI~1.SG1.SG1 ALLTHI~2.SG1.SG1 ALOHA_~1.SG9.SG9 ALOMES~1.SG1.SG1 ALONET~1.SG1.SG1 ALONMI~1.SG9.SG9 I will play around with them to see if I can come up with something. BIAB2025 Windows 10 Pro WA6NCB No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!

Re: convert Roycol #717385 05/19/22 05:49 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO J Joseph Land Expert
Joseph Land Expert J Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO	I just renamed all of the files using Bulk Rename Utility to remove the double extension and the ~ from them so they looked like normal file names. I made sure all of them have long file names in BIAB and ran the File Utility and ALL of them had added extensions to them. For Example: 2LATBA1.SG4 is named 2-5-1 Progessions--All keys in BIAB and the File Rename utility changed it to 2LATBA1.SG4.SG4 instead of properly renaming it to 2-5-1 Progessions--All keys.sg4 on the hard drive. Something is truly amiss here at my end also. I would attach the song file but BIAB will not let me upload a song file. Only lets me upload a graphics file. Tried to rename the extension to make it appear as a graphics file but BIAB rejected it. Any ideas on how to make the song file available for others to test? BIAB2025 Windows 10 Pro WA6NCB No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!

Re: convert Roycol #717386 05/19/22 05:52 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,018 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,018 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Reply to a post and use the File Manager. It doesn't look like it, but it's a link if you hover. Find it at the top of the Post Options, just below the area where you type a post. I think one of you should contact PG Music Support directly, and reference this thread. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: convert MoultiPass #717387 05/19/22 05:52 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO J Joseph Land Expert
Joseph Land Expert J Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO	Originally Posted By: MoultiPass https://www.advancedrenamer.com/ Not sure if that program will extract the embedded song name from within the BIAB song and transfer it to the filename or not. BIAB2025 Windows 10 Pro WA6NCB No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!

Re: convert Matt Finley #717388 05/19/22 05:54 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO J Joseph Land Expert
Joseph Land Expert J Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO	Originally Posted By: Matt Finley Reply to a post and use the File Manager, lower left area. I think one of you should contact PG Music Support directly, and reference this thread. Did that but evidently the forum program is looking at the file to make sure it is indeed a graphic. Tried renaming the extension to gif, jpg and tif and even zip, but it rejected it each time. BIAB2025 Windows 10 Pro WA6NCB No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!

Re: convert Roycol #717390 05/19/22 05:59 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO J Joseph Land Expert
Joseph Land Expert J Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO	Originally Posted By: Roycol Yes I know all that. I have about 500 files to rename with song title. For example, it renames them from 2LATBABY.sgu to 2LATBABY.sgu.sgu I have found if I open the file and re-save it, it works ok, its too many to open/save, is there a utility to open & save all files in a folder? Roy I just renamed my test file like you did earlier and the File Rename did change that one correctly. But like you stated, saving 500+ files, one at a time, is not something I am willing to do. Let's see if someone else can come up with a solution. BIAB2025 Windows 10 Pro WA6NCB No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!

Re: convert Roycol #717391 05/19/22 05:59 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,018 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,018 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	If it's the extension being blocked, call it .txt and just tell people to rename the file. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: convert Matt Finley #717396 05/19/22 06:15 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO J Joseph Land Expert
Joseph Land Expert J Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO	Originally Posted By: Matt Finley If it's the extension being blocked, call it .txt and just tell people to rename the file. Done this before many times but the forum keeps rejecting this file. Tried renaming it using a .txt extension but it keeps getting rejected. See Screenshot. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Rename.jpg (77.13 KB, 98 downloads) BIAB2025 Windows 10 Pro WA6NCB No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!

Re: convert Roycol #717397 05/19/22 06:16 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,018 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,018 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	That's a puzzle. Another reason to report this to Support. Sorry. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: convert Roycol #717399 05/19/22 06:36 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO J Joseph Land Expert
Joseph Land Expert J Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO	I put a bunch of the songs I have on Dropbox. If anyone wants to take a stab at being able to rename these using the File Rename utility, here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/chphaspwz3maqid/AACjFRsyhBFQLgYQ1HCsibyoa?dl=0 I will keep them up for a week. BIAB2025 Windows 10 Pro WA6NCB No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!

Re: convert Roycol #717421 05/19/22 10:08 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,018 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,018 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	I was just corrected by another long-time poster who told me that the text extension tip I gave above, now does not work. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: convert Roycol #717428 05/19/22 11:28 AM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,160 Mi., USA rharv Veteran
rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,160 Mi., USA	Try using an MP4 extension .. maybe that will work. I seem to recall Pipeline getting away with it. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: convert Roycol #717441 05/19/22 01:03 PM Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO J Joseph Land Expert
Joseph Land Expert J Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 978 Springfield, MO	PG Music should look into the upload scenario. How are we to help fix their problems if we can't upload files to test. But back to the original problem that Roycol is having that I was able to duplicate..... BIAB2025 Windows 10 Pro WA6NCB No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!

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