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RT1152 #732358 09/22/22 02:43 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8 M MidiKeyz OP Newbie
OP MidiKeyz Newbie M Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8	Hello all! Long time user but first time poster. I have the Audiophile Version of BIAB. It is all up-to-date. I am trying to generate a song using the _CREAM style but keep getting a warning that the folder bb\drums\Silence does not exist. I created the directory to see what would happen and found that BIAB generates a different error in that there are no "XXXXXX.stlye" files found. I removed the directory and opened a case with support but was just wondering if anyone else had encountered this issue? I have tried (multiple times) rebuilding the styles list but to no avail. Any help/insight will be appreciated. Wes

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732359 09/22/22 03:24 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda DrDan Veteran
DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	Protocol says to do a RTFS BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732360 09/22/22 03:42 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8 M MidiKeyz OP Newbie
OP MidiKeyz Newbie M Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8	Whose protocol? Lol. Developers are looking into the issue. Last edited by MidiKeyz; 09/22/22 03:42 PM.

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732361 09/22/22 03:48 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Most people may be aware, but the cryptic acronym posted above is 'Return To Factory Settings'. Also, if the Audiophile is presumably on an external drive, check that RealTracks and RealDrums point to the correct location: Options > Preferences > RealDrums > Custom Drums Folder and Options > Preferences > RealTracks > Custom RealTracks Folder BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732364 09/22/22 04:03 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,811 Winston Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,811 Winston Salem, NC USA	I was able to duplicate the issue. I assume there is an issue with the style so a return to factory settings, RTFS, likely will not resolve the issue. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Clipboard01.jpg (438.64 KB, 125 downloads) Yellow message No Silence Folder Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732367 09/22/22 04:14 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP MidiKeyz Newbie M Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8	Thanks AudioTrack but I've already taken the standard actions, at least everything I've learned to do since the DOS version of BIAB. Some have been performed multiple times including RTFS, most current updates all applied successfully, styles list rebuilt (fast and slow) several times, settings double/triple checked, etc. Everything seems to check out. After several exchanges with support, the issue has been escalated internally to development. Interestingly, I don't get the warning when running the song from the style picker only when returning to the chord chart view and then generating. Kind of weird. So far I haven't experienced the issue with any other style. The only thing I haven't done is a full manual of RT 362 but I'm hesitant to change the system while development is working with a known state. I guess I'll wait for what support finds. Cheers!

Re: RT1152 Jim Fogle #732369 09/22/22 04:19 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8 M MidiKeyz OP Newbie
OP MidiKeyz Newbie M Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8	Hello, Jim. I'm thinking that is what PG customer support was able to see also and why they escalated to development. If just makes me wonder what should be happening in the style.

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732370 09/22/22 04:27 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,811 Winston Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,811 Winston Salem, NC USA	MidiKeyz, Thanks for reporting the issue to support. PG Music can't fix an issue unless they know about it. _CREAM is not a style I've used before. I like the instrument choices but the 65 bpm is really slow to my taste. It sounds better at 75 bpm to me. If I was using this to create a song I'd likely vary RealDrum selections throughout the song. Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732372 09/22/22 04:43 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,675 South Carolina C Charlie Fogle Veteran
Charlie Fogle Veteran C Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,675 South Carolina	It will be interesting to see how this resolves because I believe RT1152 is considered a RealTrack not a RealDrums component. It's my understanding there's considerable differences in the construction between the two... BIAB 2025:RB 2025, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.

Re: RT1152 Jim Fogle #732374 09/22/22 04:52 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8 M MidiKeyz OP Newbie
OP MidiKeyz Newbie M Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8	I'm of the same opinion Jim. I think I bumped up the bpm a bit as well. I'm kind of interested in how the missing "silence" style would affect the composition of the rhythmic element - if at all.

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732383 09/22/22 09:26 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Wes, as well as the open support item that PGM have acknowledged with you, I can advise that separately, Jim has also brought this to their attention. Hopefully they will sort this issue ASAP. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: RT1152 Jim Fogle #732393 09/23/22 02:50 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda DrDan Veteran
DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle I was able to duplicate the issue. I assume there is an issue with the style so a return to factory settings, RTFS, likely will not resolve the issue. I have no problem with this Style and its demo song - plays fine here. I also note it does not contain RT 1152? Where did you insert this? On what track? When I insert it on Melody track all still plays well. Last edited by MusicStudent; 09/23/22 02:53 AM. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732418 09/23/22 05:06 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,811 Winston Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,811 Winston Salem, NC USA	The style plays okay. Did not try the demo song. The issue is a RT1152 silence error message displays when the instruments are regenerated. Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732422 09/23/22 05:23 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	I put the RT1152 on the melody track and there was no errors. Of course it was silent. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732441 09/23/22 09:02 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 7,413 Victoria, BC Andrew - PG Music PG Music Staff
Andrew - PG Music PG Music Staff Joined: May 2002 Posts: 7,413 Victoria, BC	Quote: I am trying to generate a song using the _CREAM style but keep getting a warning that the folder bb\drums\Silence does not exist. This is a small error in the style that doesn't affect playback. We'll fix that. To fix it yourself: Ctrl+shift+F9 to open stylepicker. Click MISC -> Set Multidrums -> click on the first [...] button and select 'Empty'. Save style. Andrew PG Music Inc.

Re: RT1152 MidiKeyz #732482 09/23/22 03:02 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,811 Winston Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,811 Winston Salem, NC USA	Andrew's fix works on a per song basis. The fix does not alter the original _CREAM style. I've attached two screen shots with the steps to perform the fix highlighted. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Clipboard01.jpg (373.27 KB, 32 downloads) Clipboard02.jpg (339.12 KB, 32 downloads) Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: RT1152 Jim Fogle #732485 09/23/22 03:12 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8 M MidiKeyz OP Newbie
OP MidiKeyz Newbie M Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8	Thank you for providing this info! Much appreciated. I'm presuming "silence" is exactly that so audio would not really be impacted. Just an interesting quirk I guess.

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