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I came across this MP3 recording this morning on an older hard drive I was searching for another file. This is my very first BIAB project I completed. I had played with the program, learning my way around but not actually attempted completing a recording. An older gentleman taking guitar lessons from my friend approached me on my friend's recommendation to help with some songs. He wrote the lyrics and I helped arrange his lyrics in a logical order and also corrected some grammar issues. I wrote the music and arrangement for this co-write of a country gospel song. A third person, who was stranger to me and I only saw him once, the day he sang the vocals. Both gentlemen are named Larry. The date of the original MP3 is 2-26-2014. I didn't save any BIAB info at the time. I didn't save the SGU file. I recall speaking by email with Floyd Jane for his insight because my thought was it's a good song but needed to be re-recorded. He suggested it was ok but I don't recall ever posting it on the User Showcase. I'm still of the opinion there's several forum members that could greatly improve recording this song. What's your thoughts? It's Time To Put Jesus First
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I thought this was really good, and very well sung. I also liked the spoken break, very effective. It would be great if the choruses had harmonies or background vocals to distinguish them from the verses, but I realize that's often not possible. Otherwise, I think you got a winner here!
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Still sounds good to me.
The vocal sits well in the mix.
The tracks are well balanced, a basic "acoustic band" that serves the song as it should.
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Charlie,
I'm glad you posted this! It's great to see a BIAB user's early work with the program! It's a great song and message! Enjoyed it!
Thanks, Torrey
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Charlie...I agree with Torrey...very well done especially for a first recording with BiaB...the band is perfect for the song and message,,,well sung...well written and produced...thanks for sharing this one. Dan
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I think it's a good song with a good arrangement and good vocals. I think the spoken break is/was a great idea. Does it sound modern? No. Should it sound more modern? No, because then it would be a completely different song. Like TuneMonger said, some harmonies would be a great addition, but I'm addicted to harmonies, so no need to worry 
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Production wise there's a lot of sibilance and the vocal sits a little more above the mix. The vocal sounds like Australian Richard Clapton...particularly his more acoustic stuff C1975. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgRR6FKbCGQIf you have the vocal track then a little manual de-essing particularly on the "old man whistle" would be good. If you don't have the tracks then I think a tiny, tiny bit of reverb across the master mix mights settle the vocal in just little more.
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Charlie you and your friend Larry and your other friend Larry did a fantastic job on this song
A super vocal backed by the perfect backing band
I'm glad that you posted this as it is a great song.
I just posted a selfie and all of the responses were get well soon!
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I thought this was really good, and very well sung. I also liked the spoken break, very effective. It would be great if the choruses had harmonies or background vocals to distinguish them from the verses, but I realize that's often not possible. Otherwise, I think you got a winner here! Thanks for stopping by and listening. The spoken bridge was what initially caught my ear too. I don't think harmonies were ever discussed during the recording of this song. I agree that would have added to the production. Still sounds good to me.
The vocal sits well in the mix.
The tracks are well balanced, a basic "acoustic band" that serves the song as it should.
fj Thanks. Best I recall, this band would have been 2013 RealTracks.
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Hey Charlie, This sounds really good! 2014 was the year I got my first BIAB! With 32 Real Tracks!!! Keep 'em coming brother. Love this.
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That is so cool that you rediscovered this. We did our first one in 2012 but doubt it would hold up as well as yours. The write, arrangement, vocal and mix sound fine irrespective of when done. It’s nice to hear an accent similar to Janice’s. She told me to pay attention to the fact that Larry pronounces “day” the same way she does. Enjoyed it! J&B
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Charlie.
this is a very nice song mate with great vocs.
and its catchy too.
i also really like the spoken word break in it.
'mama etc'. kudos.
imho this should be on commercial radio...seriously.
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Charlie,
I'm glad you posted this! It's great to see a BIAB user's early work with the program! It's a great song and message! Enjoyed it!
Thanks for listening. This recording was done using a stand-alone Tascam DP-24 digital hard disk recorder using a Behringer B2 Large condenser Mic. Mixing was done using the Tascam.
Thanks, Torrey Charlie...I agree with Torrey...very well done especially for a first recording with BiaB...the band is perfect for the song and message,,,well sung...well written and produced...thanks for sharing this one. Dan Thanks. I appreciate your kind comments. Charlie
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Coincidentally, this morning I was thinking about the first time I used BiaB/Real Tracks. After seeing your post I checked. It was Dec 2013.
We must have arrived here at about the same time, Charlie.
I suppose a good many songs could benefit from a new or different perspective, mine included, but how cool to look back on one of your first BiaB productions and collaborations. I enjoyed it.
Thanks for sharing!
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Charlie,
There's nothing wrong with a song that was written years ago.
We wouldn't have classical music if that was a problem, wouldn't we?
So, this is a good song, well sung and with beautiful music.
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I think it's a good song with a good arrangement and good vocals. I think the spoken break is/was a great idea. Does it sound modern? No. Should it sound more modern? No, because then it would be a completely different song. Like TuneMonger said, some harmonies would be a great addition, but I'm addicted to harmonies, so no need to worry Thanks for listening and your generous comments. Production wise there's a lot of sibilance and the vocal sits a little more above the mix. The vocal sounds like Australian Richard Clapton...particularly his more acoustic stuff C1975. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgRR6FKbCGQIf you have the vocal track then a little manual de-essing particularly on the "old man whistle" would be good. If you don't have the tracks then I think a tiny, tiny bit of reverb across the master mix mights settle the vocal in just little more. I agree. This one was done completely on my digital multi track recorder with little attention to post effects. Thanks for taking time to listen and comment. Charlie you and your friend Larry and your other friend Larry did a fantastic job on this song
A super vocal backed by the perfect backing band
I'm glad that you posted this as it is a great song. I appreciate your kind comments.
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I really like it, Charlie. Man, what a good first start with BiaB. Back then I was only making demos and practice tracks, but this is so polished. The two Larrys did well. The music is the real gem. The mix sounds perfect in that each instrument is clear and not overtaking others. You're an inspiration, man. This morning I started redoing an old one, and have it narrowed down to 6 different styles. hehe You made a good song better.
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Hey Charlie, This sounds really good! 2014 was the year I got my first BIAB! With 32 Real Tracks!!! Keep 'em coming brother. Love this. Thanks for the kind comments. That is so cool that you rediscovered this. We did our first one in 2012 but doubt it would hold up as well as yours. The write, arrangement, vocal and mix sound fine irrespective of when done. It’s nice to hear an accent similar to Janice’s. She told me to pay attention to the fact that Larry pronounces “day” the same way she does. Enjoyed it! J&B Thanks. I always look forward to your reaction and comments. Larry, the singer, did have a good voice and unique enunciation. It would be interesting to know where he was from originally. I only interacted with him the one day he recorded these vocals. Charlie.
this is a very nice song mate with great vocs.
and its catchy too.
i also really like the spoken word break in it.
'mama etc'. kudos.
imho this should be on commercial radio...seriously.
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I appreciate your kind comments. Thanks for listening.
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Coincidentally, this morning I was thinking about the first time I used BiaB/Real Tracks. After seeing your post I checked. It was Dec 2013.
We must have arrived here at about the same time, Charlie.
I suppose a good many songs could benefit from a new or different perspective, mine included, but how cool to look back on one of your first BiaB productions and collaborations. I enjoyed it.
Thanks for sharing! It would be fun to update and redo an oldie with all the additional and better RealTracks that are available now but I agree with you, it's really cool to listen to these older tunes. Thanks for listening. Charlie,
There's nothing wrong with a song that was written years ago.
We wouldn't have classical music if that was a problem, wouldn't we?
So, this is a good song, well sung and with beautiful music.
Rob and Anne-Marie It's time I quit messing with old stuff and write something new. I've been lazy for a while. I appreciate your comments. I really like it, Charlie. Man, what a good first start with BiaB. Back then I was only making demos and practice tracks, but this is so polished. The two Larrys did well. The music is the real gem. The mix sounds perfect in that each instrument is clear and not overtaking others. You're an inspiration, man. This morning I started redoing an old one, and have it narrowed down to 6 different styles. hehe You made a good song better. Good luck with your song and I appreciate you taking time to comment on mine.
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Hi Charlie,
What a nice idea to bring an oldie back.
It's a very nice song (melody and vocals). As Ray said, it could use a bit of d-essing, but maybe that's not possible anymore?
I started learning BiaB in 2016. You did it in 2014.
At that time I was crossing with a huge camper through your country, not making any music for some time.
Although I'm not religious I enjoyed your song a lot. As I said, I like the melody and the singing.
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Impressive and very enjoyable first use of Biab, Charlie; with an interesting backstory on its creation.
I agree it would be worth rerecording, so I hope you get pm`s from current forum members!
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Charlie,
I'm glad you posted this! It's great to see a BIAB user's early work with the program! It's a great song and message! Enjoyed it!
Thanks, Torrey Yep ... what Torrey said. I do n';t think there's anything wrong with it as is. I don't think you need to change a thing. the spoke part was a very pleasant surprise. I strated out with version 11.5 in 2011. It;'s come a long way since. But those initial RTs still sound good to my ears! Thanks for a glimpse back down your musical journey. Alan
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Charlie, this holds up really well considering the time that has passed. My first efforts were not nearly this quality. The vocal is excellent and the song is nicely put together. I like it! Hope you are doing well, Tom
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Hi Charlie,
What a nice idea to bring an oldie back.
It's a very nice song (melody and vocals). As Ray said, it could use a bit of d-essing, but maybe that's not possible anymore?
I started learning BiaB in 2016. You did it in 2014.
At that time I was crossing with a huge camper through your country, not making any music for some time.
Although I'm not religious I enjoyed your song a lot. As I said, I like the melody and the singing.
Hans
Thanks for dropping in for a listen. Impressive and very enjoyable first use of Biab, Charlie; with an interesting backstory on its creation.
I agree it would be worth rerecording, so I hope you get pm`s from current forum members!
Robert Thanks for listening. Yes, there's a lot of talent here on the forum that could do wonders with the song. Charlie,
I'm glad you posted this! It's great to see a BIAB user's early work with the program! It's a great song and message! Enjoyed it!
Thanks, Torrey Yep ... what Torrey said. I do n';t think there's anything wrong with it as is. I don't think you need to change a thing. the spoke part was a very pleasant surprise. I strated out with version 11.5 in 2011. It;'s come a long way since. But those initial RTs still sound good to my ears! Thanks for a glimpse back down your musical journey. Alan Hi Al. Yes, I just listened to an oldie you re-posted with fabulous vocals from Mrs. Di. Thanks for taking a listen to my song. Charlie, this holds up really well considering the time that has passed. My first efforts were not nearly this quality. The vocal is excellent and the song is nicely put together. I like it! Hope you are doing well, Tom I'm doing well. Lol, "She's Evil" is still on my daily playlist. An all-time favorite of mine. Always good to hear from you and always looking forward to your latest post. Thanks for your kind comments.
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Charlie, this is really good. It's so neat that you found your first post and then reposted it! Especially for the new guys like me. I echo what a lot of folks have said as far as how good the speaking break was and harmonies might be a good addition. I'm a steel guitar nut, so I like what you've got, but if you wind up making additions you might consider adding an additional lead instrument for some diversity in the sound. Just an idea, I like what you've got already.
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Thanks for dropping by, listening and taking time to comment.
As my first project, the instrumentation for the song was me just choosing an existing style and going with it and not doing any instrument additions or replacements the best I recall. I did bring existing instruments in and out throughout the song for some dynamics. That may or may not be correct due to sketchy memory... but the single solo of the pedal steel makes me think that's what I did.
I appreciate your listen.
Charlie
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Hi Charlie
Very good song
Such a beautiful melody
And your vocals sound great with it
The background track is also very well done
Great work
Many greetings
Andi ;-)
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Hi Charlie
Very good song
Such a beautiful melody
And your vocals sound great with it
The background track is also very well done
Great work
Many greetings
Andi ;-) Thanks for taking time to listen Andi.
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Very good write. Your third person singer did well. I'm glad you shared this old gem.
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Very good write. Your third person singer did well. I'm glad you shared this old gem. Thanks. Yes, this is the only recording with BIAB that I didn't personally know the folks I was working with. Thanks for listening and commenting. Charlie
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Hi, Charlie !:))
Wonderful tune, Charlie !
I really do like the tune and
your write is excellent !
The Larrys did well also !
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Charlie,
Very nice gospel song!
I think that even BIAB at that time had a good arrangement.
However, with the current BIAB's ability, I think it will be an even more polished arrangement.
I think that there are various problems such as vocals, but I definitely recommend a re-production.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
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Hi, Charlie !:))
Wonderful tune, Charlie !
I really do like the tune and
your write is excellent !
The Larrys did well also !
cheers
Dani Hi Dani. I'm glad to see you stopped for a listen. Hope you're doing well. Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it. Charlie,
Very nice gospel song!
I think that even BIAB at that time had a good arrangement.
However, with the current BIAB's ability, I think it will be an even more polished arrangement.
I think that there are various problems such as vocals, but I definitely recommend a re-production.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi Thanks. Yes, this was a fun project from beginning to finish and had a lot of firsts for me and music production. This was my first co-write, I produced the song working in the historic setting of downtown Charleston, SC which set the tone for me to be the same as if I were writing in Greenwich Village, New York City. I worked with a stranger on vocals and it was the first real project with BIAB just to name a few firsts. I've been hooked on BIAB ever since. Thanks for listening and your kind comments.
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Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
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