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Bonjour tout le monde! :-))

ravi de revenir ici, où le savoir qui m'échappe semble une évidence pour tout le monde!

deux questions m'amènent. Les deux dernières, promis! Voici les faits:

Pour me procurer Band-in-a-Box, je suis passé par http://www.ipemusic.com/pgmusic. Je n'aurais vraisemblablement pas dû...de deux choses l'une:
ou bien je suis devenu plus stupide qu'un dindon qui trouve une table des logarithmes et qui n'saurions qu'en faire,
ou bien il y a vraiment un problème de "procédures" avec certains programmes...

En effet, je me suis retrouvé contraint au téléchargement d'un bouzin innommable nommé "bandinabox_download_manager_setup_1.0.66",
d'une taille de 62,4 Mo, et je vous donne ma parole qu'on ne m'a pas laissé le choix: la page n'offrait aucune autre option!

J'ai donc douneloudé le bidule, ouvert le bidule, installé le bidule, et puis...échec du bidule.
Je veux dire par là qu'il n'y avait rien à comprendre à ce que j'étais censé faire...tout était soit incompréhensible, soit impossible! crazy
J'ai donc désinstallé le bidule manu énervari, et suis sorti grommeler dans la rue en tirant une tronche de croque-mort hépathique. Ca soulage, sur le coup.
Par conséquent, à l'exception du bidule lui-même, (que j'ai toujours, mais sous forme d'intalleur, comme si je ne l'avais jamais ouvert)
plus rien de cette mésaventure ne subsiste sur mon ordi pour le moment.

Ce qui subsiste, en revanche, c'est le fait que j'ai bel et bien payé 129€ pour un programme que je n'ai toujours pas, et le sentiment de m'être fait empapaouter...

Résultat des courses, coincé comme un pourcentage dans une déclaration de revenus, je me vois amené, de deux choses l'une:
-ou bien à me faire rembourser mes 129€ et renoncer à Band-in-a-Box, mais franchement, je trouverais ça rageant!
-ou bien à revenir ici m'adresser à ceux qui savent, ou ont vécu une expérience similiaire que leur HP les autorise à raconter, et qui me diront peut-être ce qui s'est passé!

D'où les deux questions qui m'amènent:

A) Les emm... que j'ai eus sont-ils normaux? En d'autres termes, existe-t-il une adresse, ailleurs, où le parcours serait moins labyrinthesque? Où j'achèterais juste un installeur, et basta?
B) Au cas où ce lamentable fiasco serait dû à une erreur de ma part, ce qui signifierait tout recommencer depuis le début (pourquoi pas, après tout...?), quelqu'un sait-il comment s'y prendre?
Après tout, j'ai peut-être simplement besoin que mon cerveau fasse une mise-à-jour, histoire de coller un peu plus aux procédures nouvelles et à la philosophie qui les sous-tend?

Anecdote:
avant le téléchargement du bidule en question, j'ai pu lire un court texte, sur la page, qui expliquait que ce programme est destiné à rendre la procédure d'installation "plus simple que la vieille méthode manuelle..."
Et soudain, je pense à Guitry, qui disait à propos des sens giratoires destinés aux automobiles:
"tout ceci est fort compliqué, comme tout ce qui est destiné à simplifier la vie!"

Et voilà! Vous savez tout à propos de là où j'en suis, ce qui n'est pas compliqué puisque je fais du sur-place, en fait! :-D

il me reste à vous remercier de votre patience d'abord et de vos réponses ensuite, et à vous souhaiter la meilleure semaine possible!

amicalement

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From many years of poorly understanding French, I think this is a question about purchasing BIAB, downloading the installer, and not receiving the full program. I think the question also asks if there is a better way to contact PG Music. From other posts by this user, this topic is about a Windows computer but this user is very experienced with BIAB on the Mac.

You can contact Support in one of several ways:

Try the Live Chat, which is that blue bubble on the lower right of your screen (if they are waiting online).

Or click on The Support column header, in the third row down on your screen, the blue row.

There is also a French language forum for BIAB, here: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=15&page=1


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Google Translate gives:

Hello everybody! :-))

delighted to be back here, where the knowledge that eludes me seems obvious to everyone!

two questions lead me. The last two, I promise! Here are the facts:

To get Band-in-a-Box, I went to http://www.ipemusic.com/pgmusic. I probably shouldn't have...one of two things:
or else I've become dumber than a turkey who finds a table of logarithms and doesn't know what to do with it,
or else there is really a problem of "procedures" with certain programs...

Indeed, I found myself forced to download an unnameable book named "bandinabox_download_manager_setup_1.0.66",
62.4 MB in size, and I give you my word that I was left with no choice: the page offered no other options!

So I douneloud the widget, opened the widget, installed the widget, and then...failed the widget.
By that I mean there was nothing to understand what I was supposed to do...everything was either incomprehensible or impossible! crazy
So I uninstalled the manu énervari gizmo, and went out grumbling in the street, pulling a hepathic undertaker's face. It relieves, instantly.
Therefore, with the exception of the thingy itself, (which I still have, but in installer form, as if I had never opened it)
nothing of this misadventure remains on my computer for the moment.

What remains, however, is the fact that I did indeed pay €129 for a program that I still don't have, and the feeling of having been smothered...

Race result, stuck as a percentage in a tax return, I see myself led, of two things one:
-or to have my €129 reimbursed and give up Band-in-a-Box, but frankly, I would find that infuriating!
-or to come back here to address those who know, or have had a similar experience that their HP authorizes them to tell, and who will perhaps tell me what happened!

Hence the two questions that lead me:

A) Are the emm... I had normal? In other words, is there an address, elsewhere, where the route would be less labyrinthine? Where would I just buy an installer, and basta?
B) In case this dismal fiasco is due to an error on my part, which means starting all over again from the beginning (why not, after all...?), does anyone know how to go about it?
After all, maybe I just need my brain to do an update, just to stick a little more to the new procedures and the philosophy behind them?

Anecdote:
before downloading the gadget in question, I was able to read a short text, on the page, which explained that this program is intended to make the installation procedure "simpler than the old manual method..."
And suddenly, I think of Guitry, who said about roundabouts for automobiles:
"all this is very complicated, like everything that is intended to simplify life!"

And There you go! You know everything about where I'm at, which isn't complicated since I'm actually treading water! :-D

it only remains for me to thank you first for your patience and then for your answers, and to wish you the best possible week!

friendly

Alceste


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I wonder if there is anyone in PGM support who can converse in French?


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There is also the very active +++ Forum des Utilisateurs Français de Band-in-a-Box +++ forum section with moderator Daniel Donval.


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Thanks for translation, who knew the French were so witty and perceptive. I studied German in school. If only I would have known.


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Bonjour Alceste,

Vous n'avez pas besoin d'utiliser le "Install Manager" si vous ne le souhaitez pas. Trouvez votre URL de téléchargement dans votre e-mail de confirmation de commande. Cliquez sur ce lien ou copiez-le et collez-le dans votre navigateur.

Sur votre page de téléchargement, vous pouvez cocher la case "Montrer les éléments téléchargeables pour ce produit" et vous pourrez télécharger tous les fichiers individuellement.



Alternativement, si vous souhaitez utiliser le "Install Manager", ouvrez-le et cliquez sur le bouton "URL de téléchargement". Maintenant, collez le lien vers votre page de téléchargement et appuyez sur "OK". Notez que si vous avez besoin de changer la langue en FR, cela peut être fait en allant dans le menu "Edit | Language Selection".



Dites moi si vous avez d'autres questions.

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You don't need to use the Install Manager if you don't want to. Find your download URL in your order confirmation email. Click on this link or copy and paste it into your browser.

On your download page, you can click the checkbox "Montrer les éléments téléchargeables pour ce produit" and you can download all the files individually.

(see image)

Alternatively, if you wish to use the Install Manager, open it and click the "URL de téléchargement" button. Now, paste in the link to your download page and press "OK". Note if you need to change the language to FR, this can be done by going to the menu "Edit | Language Selection".

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Hello AudioTrack!

please, if you think you can help me, feel free to do it in english,

this is not a problem for me!

I read English better than I speak it, and therefore I'm certain I could understand!

To be fully honest, when I read the english translation Google does with my french writing, I think I could

write directly in English!

Thank you anyway ;-)


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Hello Alceste-le-Loup


I hope that Andrew's reply above has been able to assist you. Yes?


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