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Anybody able to help me with troubleshooting an audio issue?

I have a Tascam 208i Interface connected to a Win 11 computer with Studio One version 5.

Below is a guitar stem exported from BiaB and dragged into S1. I believe this is a stereo track but when I listen to it with headphones and pan hard right I get no audio at all. When panned Center or left I do hear audio.

Any thoughts on how to troubleshoot this?

Thanks,

--Steve

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The waveform pic looks like it may have panning info drawn on it. Can you remove that and try again?




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.....also, it looks like it has two headphone jacks. Have you tried each one? What happens if you run the audio outputs to speakers?




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Originally Posted By: sslechta
The waveform pic looks like it may have panning info drawn on it. Can you remove that and try again?

Hi Steve . . . great name smile
Yes the green line is a panning automation line. When the panning line is dragged upward you increase the left channel, when dragged downward you increase the right channel. Not sure what you mean about removing it other than to display the volume automation instead, in which case the problem behaivor is the same.

Also, good thinking about the dual headphone jacks and the speakers. I tried each headphone jack on the Tascam and they both exhibit the same problem. The Tascam also has a monitor balance knob, which is always set vertical.

And when I listen with the JBL monitors, once again, same behaivor; when I pan hard right I get no audio.


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Can you play music out of any other app normally, like an .mp3 or YouTube channel?




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Steve, in the process of blindly hunting and pecking I think I solved the problem.
Below is a screenshot of the Tascam software. For years I have had everything set to "Computer 1" on this screen and "life was good", no detectable problems. Until others in the showcase started noticing that my bass recordings were not centered in the stereo field. I too want the bass centered.

So just as a what-if I set Line Out 2 to "Computer 2" and my left and right channels on the headphones and monitors are now working. The manual doesn't address these details. My brain would actually think Master L and Master R would be the proper settings. Go figure.

The possible settings for these Line Outs are many:
Input 1 - Input 4
OPT A1 - OPT A8
OPT B1 - OPT B8
Master L
Master R
Aux 1 - Aux 4 and
Computer 1 - Computer 10

Of course the "3-legs of the stool" here are the Tascam, Studio One and Windows 11; and possibly the sound card. Lots of hardware and software.

Tomorrow I'll verify this solution with my bass recording. Hopefully I'll have victory but something tells me that making this change is going to affect something else . . . we'll see.

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FWIW I'm still having recording problems.

When I create an audio track in Studio One to record my bass, the only way I can get a signal into S1 to record is if the track is set to stereo even if upon creating the track I told it I want mono. If the track is set to mono I can't record. And when it is set to stereo my bass is recorded on the Left side with nothing on the right side.

Below is a screen shot of a few seconds of recorded bass.

In addition to me not being an expert in S1 or the Tascam this is looking like either
a. Studio One is not configured properly or
b. Studio One and the Tascam are not "playing together nicely"

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BT.

my best recommendation is to do the following so people can help you.

1..describe your signal flow into the tascam from the moment the signal leaves the output jack of your bass gtr. going direct into input of tasc OR via bass amp ?
including cables used. mono or stereo anywhere in the chain ?
2..i assume your tasc has a control panel…post a pic of its settings and the same for your global S1 settings as well as a pic of your trak settings that the bass is being recorded to.


lets start there. a pic of the front panel of the tasc for input of bass signal would be usefull also.
(note i'm a tad vision impaired to see the pics youve posted so far...thus maybe someone can look at em' and comment.)


best

om

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Here is the best i can do at this time. Good Luck.



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It appears that you do not have your DAW incorrectly with your audio interface. How to set it up is in the docs under audio.

Attached is a picture of my set up. As you can see I have the stereo audio inputs set up three ways, one stereo, one mono left channel, and one mono right channel. I have the same set up for all 10 stereo inputs. When I plug into an audio input I get the identical settings as you see here in my audio one input.

I hope this helps.

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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
BT.

my best recommendation is to do the following so people can help you.

1..describe your signal flow into the tascam from the moment the signal leaves the output jack of your bass gtr. going direct into input of tasc OR via bass amp ?
including cables used. mono or stereo anywhere in the chain ?
2..i assume your tasc has a control panel…post a pic of its settings and the same for your global S1 settings as well as a pic of your trak settings that the bass is being recorded to.

lets start there. a pic of the front panel of the tasc for input of bass signal would be usefull also.
(note i'm a tad vision impaired to see the pics youve posted so far...thus maybe someone can look at em' and comment.)

best

om

This problem was first identified and discussed in this thread

But Dan correctly noted that this is more appropriately dealt with here. There are screen shots and discussion at the original thread; too much to duplicate. But regarding the signal chain here is what I decribed in the original thread.

My bass guitar is connected to my 40W bass amp. There is a 3-prong XLR Line Out on the amp that is connected to Channel 1 of the TASCAM 208i Interface. The Interface is connected to my Win 11 computer via USB cable. I'd have all the other instrument tracks in a Studio One (ver 5) session. I then create an empty instrument track for my bass. I don't remember it giving me an option to select stereo or mono. After setting my gains to not go red I arm the bass track and hit Record in the Transport bar. All the other tracks play thru the monitors and I hear my bass playing thru the amp. I then jam along to the "band" I've created and my bass is recorded.


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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Here is the best i can do at this time. Good Luck.

Dan,
If I had Reaper I probably wouldn't be having this problem.
But thanks for taking the time to record that video.


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Originally Posted By: MarioD
It appears that you do not have your DAW incorrectly with your audio interface. How to set it up is in the docs under audio.

Attached is a picture of my set up. As you can see I have the stereo audio inputs set up three ways, one stereo, one mono left channel, and one mono right channel. I have the same set up for all 10 stereo inputs. When I plug into an audio input I get the identical settings as you see here in my audio one input.

I hope this helps.

You may have identified the problem Mario.
I will check my S1 audio settings . . .


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(i'm just watching uk soccer here on us nbc tv so excuse me if i'm wrong.)

have you tried the following ?
(only try after marios suggestion.)

1. set the S1 trak to mono.
2. bypass the bass amp n' use high impedence input of tasc (assuming tasc has one ?)

if things work ok with above then i suspect the xlr connection tween bass amp and tasc input.
but i might be wrong.

just as a wild idea...does the same problem occur with other daws ? eg maybe try pg realband or audacity ?
if the problem goes away then i suspect it's a setting
in S1.
i'm just trying to troubleshoot mate.
sooo..please dont 'yap' at moi.

best

om
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have a great 2023 mario.

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I think I can finally take a victory lap, take off my computer operator hat and put back on my amature muscian hat again!

"Captain" Mario put me on the right path of examining my Studio One settings. So I watched an Obedia video on the subject and learned that the factory settings I've been using for 4 or so years was the culprit.

Big thanks to Mario and everyone else who helped. Including those that noticed that my bass recordings were not centered.

--Steve

PS> If anyone from Presonas is listening in, I can help you write a better users manual for this subject.

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Anybody want to collab on my next song?

It's called M's On Your Diagonal laugh

Hey hey, my, my
Life is too short for you to cry
With M's on your diagonal, life is great
Call Captain Mario before it's too late!




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Originally Posted By: Bass Thumper
...............
"Captain" Mario ..............


You do not want me as your captain. The last time I captained a boat it went on a three hour tour........a three hour tour wink


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It's OK little buddy.....

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Mario is either the Captain or the Professor . . . definately NOT Gilligan !


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