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Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST #753199 02/11/23 06:37 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda	Honestly don't know if I knew this or not. Seems it used to work but today I find it is not working. The two utility tracks which I used to hold midi in BIAB are not there when I open the .mgu in the BIAB-VST in my DAW. This has been such a long term issue hard to keep track. Can anyone confirm or remind me? Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753238 02/11/23 12:23 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,613	Are you selecting the Util track in the Mixer first ? Zoom++ https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753240 02/11/23 01:10 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda	I am creating the entire song in BIAB which includes several Utility tracks. I then save the .mgu file. Next I open it in BIAB-VST within reaper and the utility tracks are not there. In addition the midi patche on the melody track is not the save patch the file was saved with. But that latter is just BIAB being BIAB. Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753246 02/11/23 01:30 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 2,711	student are you just doing a regular bb save before opening in bb plug in OR try SAVE SPECIAL >>> WITH PATCHES. before useing plug in. just an idea to try. otherwise i dont know. i always save with patches and never regular save cos its tripped me up in the past doing such. best om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 02/11/23 01:33 PM. New Song "PRETTY GIRL" for my wife...Dec 2023 (my vocs....mixed for good earbuds.) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs/prettygirlrbfinalcalfsongsdec2023mp3 (and rock song THE STALLION and bluegrass song... BANKER MAN....90 songs useing bb/rb.)

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753251 02/11/23 01:46 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,613	BBW4 should be able to open a saved frozen SGU/MGU and the you should get identical tracks in the BIAB-VST. https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753259 02/11/23 02:15 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,613	I honestly thinks it's easier to drag the tracks from Biab main directly onto the tracks in the Plugin (forget BBW4), this way you get the exact same tracks, honestly it's not worth going through all the stress and frustration, IT JUST WORKS. You can keep dragging new tracks that you have edited in Biab with Alt+F8 to update the Plugin track and it will still keep all other instances in the SaveTracks folder that you can go back to if need be. https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST musocity #753260 02/11/23 02:39 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: musocity I honestly thinks it's easier to drag the tracks from Biab main directly onto the tracks in the Plugin (forget BBW4), this way you get the exact same tracks, honestly it's not worth going through all the stress and frustration, IT JUST WORKS. You can keep dragging new tracks that you have edited in Biab with Alt+F8 to update the Plugin track and it will still keep all other instances in the SaveTracks folder that you can go back to if need be. You are preaching to the choir. I could not agree with you more! However, I have wanted this BIAB-VST to work for going on 5 years now. I feel like Ahab and this is my white whale. I have tried to kick it before, but I keep coming back. I guess I am addicted to it. Does this sound a bit familar to you, musocity? Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753282 02/11/23 06:31 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,613	Yes, only too well. "going on 5 years now" OMG totally forgot how long it's been Adar has been very quite, maybe just maybe... nah don't want more false hope. https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753339 02/12/23 04:33 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda	Regarding the thread title. I have done some testing and confirmed Utility Tracks from BIAB file are gone when the file is opened in the BIAB-VST. Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753365 02/12/23 06:11 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 417 Jersey Channel Islands Brian Cadoret Journeyman
Brian Cadoret Journeyman Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 417 Jersey Channel Islands	Hi, I have put together a song with two RT utility tracks added then saved as an SGU When I open the SGU in the VST Plugin both utility tracks are showing and after generating are still there. I'm using the BIAB VST Plugin v5.1.4 Brian Brian Cadoret BIAB 2024 Pro with BIAB2023 UltraPAK build 1111. Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST Brian Cadoret #753369 02/12/23 06:57 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: Brian Cadoret Hi, I have put together a song with two RT utility tracks added then saved as an SGU When I open the SGU in the VST Plugin both utility tracks are showing and after generating are still there. I'm using the BIAB VST Plugin v5.1.4 Brian I am on V5.1.6 ! Could that be it? Or perhaps the .sgu versus the .mgu I used. Or perhaps it is the style.. or the RTs or the midi... to many use-specific variables impacting this VST. But thanks for the info. I am going to try 5.1.4 now. Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753370 02/12/23 07:12 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda	OK, I tried the 5.1.4 and no utility tracks BUT... I noticed you said RTs and I am using Midi tracks. So I switched to a RT on the Utility Track and that worked as you say. So the problem is MIDI! Damn, I think I knew that already but had just forgotten. With all the use-specific requirements - its not "all tracks are the same", going on 5 years, it is hard to keep up this app. thank you Brian Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753387 02/12/23 09:41 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 417 Jersey Channel Islands Brian Cadoret Journeyman
Brian Cadoret Journeyman Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 417 Jersey Channel Islands	Hi, Added two MIDI tracks to the same song in BIAB and saved. Opened up again in the VST Plugin and both the RT's and MIDI tracks are there. I didn't know there was a v5.1.6 update for the plugin? Brian Brian Cadoret BIAB 2024 Pro with BIAB2023 UltraPAK build 1111. Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST Brian Cadoret #753391 02/12/23 10:19 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: Brian Cadoret Hi, Added two MIDI tracks to the same song in BIAB and saved. Opened up again in the VST Plugin and both the RT's and MIDI tracks are there. I didn't know there was a v5.1.6 update for the plugin? Brian Well Brian, that just makes me angry ... 1 question, are you in Reaper? Otherwise, BIAB has a long history of inconsistent user's experience. Can't tell you how many times I have seen, "...works here" versus "...doesn't work here?" I call it programing with too many use-specific actions. I really have to stop working with this BIAB-VST. There must be a 12-point program out there for addicts like me. Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753394 02/12/23 10:46 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,613	Have they fixed the Midi Only generation in 5.1.4 or 5.1.6 yet ? 5 years on it should be working by now ? https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753402 02/12/23 11:28 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda	No Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST MoultiPass #753422 02/12/23 02:28 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,613 musocity Veteran
musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,613	I would wait for 6 or 5.5 https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753443 02/12/23 10:48 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 417 Jersey Channel Islands Brian Cadoret Journeyman
Brian Cadoret Journeyman Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 417 Jersey Channel Islands	Originally Posted By: MusicStudent Originally Posted By: Brian Cadoret Hi, Added two MIDI tracks to the same song in BIAB and saved. Opened up again in the VST Plugin and both the RT's and MIDI tracks are there. I didn't know there was a v5.1.6 update for the plugin? Brian Well Brian, that just makes me angry ... 1 question, are you in Reaper? Otherwise, BIAB has a long history of inconsistent user's experience. Can't tell you how many times I have seen, "...works here" versus "...doesn't work here?" I call it programing with too many use-specific actions. I really have to stop working with this BIAB-VST. There must be a 12-point program out there for addicts like me. Hi, I'm using Samplitude Pro X4 and Acoustica Mixcraft Pro 9 both work fine with the VST Plugin. Brian Brian Cadoret BIAB 2024 Pro with BIAB2023 UltraPAK build 1111. Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB

Re: Utility tracks from BIAB .mgu do not open in BIAB-VST DrDan #753725 02/15/23 07:55 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,467 Wauconda	Let me restate the problem statement: Utility tracks with MIDI present in the BIAB song files, are not present when the file is opened in the BIAB-VST in REAPER! Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

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