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Hey,

PG asked me to to post my RB questions here so everyone can benefit.

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So, I have one.

On another thread, Muso says this about Real Track Midi Drum generation:

"as an aside how many people know in rb midi drum traks can be genned gonzo fast eg using *.dp feature.
so as i have 48 traks i just stay in midi cos i can work fast. the objective being to see how well the song hangs together. ie step 1 is genning midi guide traks."

I don't know what this means but I would like to know.

AND, I would be VERY interested to know if I can go into Real Band 2023 and ONLY generate the Midi Real Chart from a list of drums, not not also generate the .wav as well.

The reason is sometimes I only want the midi loaded as a reference and do not need the .wav per se each time.

Well, if there is any info on what Muso was saying, what it means, and where you find the instructions that would be greatly appreciated.

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Currently I don't think there is a way to just generate realcharts without the WAVs although the tracks with the WAVs can be deleted.

I think he was referring to Edit - MIDI - Fill Track With Drum Pattern, which uses DP files in the Realband\MidiDrums folder.

There's also a Drum Grid Editor in Edit - MIDI - Drums/Patch Map - Drum Grid Editor.


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Ah yes, ok. Thanks Jeff.

It is still massively cool to be able to get the drum chart, and I am thankful.

When I thought for a second I was going to be able to get instant midi for all the real drums and bypass
.wav generate I flipped out.

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Oh well. Maybe next year.

Still your biggest fan.

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Thanks. Just want to confirm you saw this post where I had tested the saving of VST settings:

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=755892#Post755892


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(ps jeff..yep i used the oft forgotten 'fill' feature...
i used to do sooo many ruff demos in ptw useing it for speed.)

David//ALL.

how to minimise waveform times in rb….YEE HAW !!..lol.
a trickie dickie. ..to save constant waveform wav redraws.
this is what i did….one way. .
(i did a song sw8 yaw style with rt's. )
1..i laid out my chords n' genned ONCE…THEN i did a stereo audio mix n'imported the stereo mix on a spare trak in rb. ..THEN…
2..i replaced the yaw style with a MIDI SW 8 style…THEN
(note same chords obviously).
3..on different rb traks i genned all sorts of midi traks one after tother..includeing midi supertraks. all sorta midi instruments including drums…all playing along with the one stereo trak. genned loads of midi traks (no waveform waiting) and of course if i chose then i could experiment pluging vi's/sfrz/synthmaster etc on a midi trak.

thus there you go…no keep on waiting for waveform draws. PLUS smaller *.seq storage sizes.

LET ME EMPHASISE THE KEY IS AFTER GENNING THE STEREO MIX FROM ORIGINAL STYLE (filled with rt's etc ) REPLACE IT WITH A SIMILAR MIDI STYLE AS TO MATCHING SWING or EVEN etc. in this case i replaced a rt style sw8 with a all midi sw8 style.

then after doing all the above extra midi traks....... for " s's n' giggles'...i then starting experimenting
with loops.

lets look at the advantages of above method…

..no constant rt waveform redraws. cos only one guide audio stereo trak.
..i find i can work faster.
..one can experiment with different combos of midi traks/plug ins/etc etc.
..great for 'sing along' to test ones vocs n' if the key works with ones vocs...n' lyrics etc.
..remembder if the chord sheet is loaded into bb…also you can also drag midi traks into the shebang.

hth…i KNOW it seems a tad complex but once one gets the hang of it/experiments..
its an interesting method. works good here.
(REMEMBER TO DO SEQ SAVES !)

happiness.

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Jeff,

Not working on my end. See screenshots. It reverts back to Coyote. In 2022 it would at least save Aria. And Aria is the default.

I think I need to go read that other post of yours more carefully and try what you said, now I see I missed some things and get back you you.

Thanks Jeff.

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You can get the RealDrumsMidiCharts by opening the MGU drum style of closest bpm to RB project, then drag the the Melody track into RB, either to MID or drag the track direct.
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Thanks, that's a neat trick. I see you did it with a pedal steel track.

I tried it with a drum track and it did not work.

I will try again later.

Thanks again.

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They are all in the Melody track no matter what it's called drag it.
If you look in the Piano Roll view you will see the midi drums.

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