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OK, now I do have to apologize. I maybe have been a bit overly vocal on this topic. I don't want to be considered a Fanboy who just goes on and on about a specific app. Unfortunately, it maybe too late for me to do anything about that. But that was never my intention.

So I am going to leave this topic and turn the floor over to this guy who covers this far better than I ever could.




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Dan, please don't leave this topic! The word I'd used to describe you is not fanboy but EXPERT!

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Don't you all get inundated in the morning emails with ads from these guys?

https://www.ghosthack.de/ultimate-midi-bundle

or this guy?

https://midi.pianoforproducers.com/niko-midi-pack

Hundreds if not thousands of keyboard midi tracks and always huge sales... These all work in EZKeys the same way that EZkeys packs work.

Just place an order one time, and you will get on the list for ever! grin


You guys know me, I would never tell anyone what to do. crazy But in this case, do your self a favor. Go to https://www.mediamusicmastery.com/ and download the free pack. Just insert the midi library folder into the "Browser" option in the EZkeys menu. You may be pleasently surprized. This is good stuff. Oh, by the way, your emial will start getting hit. But maybe in a good way for you.



Are you recommending ghosthack and Niko? Prices seem great for their collections.


I went to https://www.mediamusicmastery.com/ but did not see any free packs. Where are they?

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Yes, Dan, what John said. The information you provide is very useful.

It is obvious you like the product, and there is nothing wrong with that. So do I. You know a lot about Toontracks, and I look forward to hearing more from you about the product.

And even if you were a "Fanboy," whatever the hell that could be construed to mean...lol I see nothing wrong with being extremely or overly enthusiastic about something you like.

Well...this is a BIAB forum, not Nickelodeon. Mr. Hank Muffin resides elsewhere.

If anyone gives you a hard time...lol just let me know. I will send Vinny and Veto over to correct their attitude...lol Or perhaps this guy...lol



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JJJ, website will have a pop-up to enter your email once you do you'll receive a link to download that pack. You might have to disable pop-up blocker. I downloaded it. Poked a bit at it. Sounds okay. Still packs are a bit pricey for just a handful of MIDI files he does offer 25% off for the first time buyers.

Free is free, so good start. Dan, thank you! I might have a suggestion too, but before I do I have to try a couple of things that I already own. We'll get back in couple of days.

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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
Are you recommending ghosthack and Niko? Prices seem great for their collections.


I went to https://www.mediamusicmastery.com/ but did not see any free packs. Where are they?


A big NO for ghoshthack and Niko. However they also have free content, so you can download and see for yourself.

Todd has recently changed things up on mediamusicmastery.com. You need to register to get the free content. He just wants you email. (I warned you about that, but I can testify Todd has been around a long time and is legit.) If you wonder around his site for a bit and then.... exit, you should see this popup. Thats it. If all else fails, PM me.

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Still packs are a bit pricey for just a handful of MIDI files he does offer 25% off for the first time buyers.


Those levels of discount are extended to repeat customers on a regular basis via those emails we talked about... In fact, Todd has actully provided free codes at times. But maybe that was only to me, since I am such a nice guy. grin


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Yes, Dan, what John said. The information you provide is very useful.

It is obvious you like the product, and there is nothing wrong with that. So do I. You know a lot about Toontracks, and I look forward to hearing more from you about the product.

And even if you were a "Fanboy," whatever the hell that could be construed to mean...lol I see nothing wrong with being extremely or overly enthusiastic about something you like.

Well...this is a BIAB forum, not Nickelodeon. Mr. Hank Muffin resides elsewhere.

If anyone gives you a hard time...lol just let me know. I will send Vinny and Veto over to correct their attitude...lol Or perhaps this guy...lol

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I agree. But Billy, please leave my cousins out of this, at least you didn't mention Tommy the Torch grin grin grin grin grin grin


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LOL Mario...I like Tommy, but he is inclined to start flame wars...lol

Here is a 20-second clip of some Toontracks Synthwave sounds using the current version of EZKeys and EZDrummer2. This is just experimental messing around.

https://soundcloud.com/planobilly/toontracks-test

I wish we could expand this thread, or start a new one, to include information about other Toontrack products and show some audio examples of how you use it with BIAB or alone. I would especially like to hear from Dan on the subject and like to hear some examples.

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Are you recommending ghosthack and Niko? Prices seem great for their collections.


I went to https://www.mediamusicmastery.com/ but did not see any free packs. Where are they?


A big NO for ghoshthack and Niko. However they also have free content, so you can download and see for yourself.

Todd has recently changed things up on mediamusicmastery.com. You need to register to get the free content. He just wants you email. (I warned you about that, but I can testify Todd has been around a long time and is legit.) If you wonder around his site for a bit and then.... exit, you should see this popup. Thats it. If all else fails, PM me.




Well I moved from mobile to desktop and now I see the form. But every time I submit it I never receive the email. Tried it with several different email addresses. No joy!

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Are you recommending ghosthack and Niko? Prices seem great for their collections.


I went to https://www.mediamusicmastery.com/ but did not see any free packs. Where are they?


A big NO for ghoshthack and Niko. However they also have free content, so you can download and see for yourself.

Todd has recently changed things up on mediamusicmastery.com. You need to register to get the free content. He just wants you email. (I warned you about that, but I can testify Todd has been around a long time and is legit.) If you wonder around his site for a bit and then.... exit, you should see this popup. Thats it. If all else fails, PM me.




Well I moved from mobile to desktop and now I see the form. But every time I submit it I never receive the email. Tried it with several different email addresses. No joy!

Thanks to Dan for helping me sort it out!

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LOL Mario...I like Tommy, but he is inclined to start flame wars...lol

Here is a 20-second clip of some Toontracks Synthwave sounds using the current version of EZKeys and EZDrummer2. This is just experimental messing around.

https://soundcloud.com/planobilly/toontracks-test

I wish we could expand this thread, or start a new one, to include information about other Toontrack products and show some audio examples of how you use it with BIAB or alone. I would especially like to hear from Dan on the subject and like to hear some examples.

Billy



That sounds great Billy.

I have four EZKeys, Dream Machine, Mellotron, Upright Piano, and Electric Grand. All were bought during sale events. I also have EZ Mix but I rarely use it anymore. I have used all EZKeys in some of my songs, most of the time as a sound source but a few times incorporating their MIDI.

Why not just start a new thread?


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Well... Today is release day!



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Well, it has been May 16 here in Chigoland for almost 3-1/2 hours and still no EZ Keys 2! frown Plus, when I load Toontrack Product Manager it shows EZ Keys 1 as a downloadable/installable but when I go through that, after install it still says..."Install" and won't let me progress beyond that step.Also, all of my EZ Keys sound expansions (now called EKXs) show the option to download and install but they also get stuck after install with..."Install".

I hope this is just my own dang fault for trying to get started too soon and not an indication of some screwy Toontrack launch fail!

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A few minutes later, I close and reopen Toontrack Product Manager and it wants to update itself. After updating it I am back to where I started with everything installed and activated and ready to use except EZ Keys 2. Gonna go to bed and try again tomorrow, er, later today!

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4:09am and...IT WORKS! EZ Keys 2 is a full-screen delight! All installed and spent 15 minutes playing around with it. SWEET!

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4:09am and...IT WORKS! EZ Keys 2 is a full-screen delight! All installed and spent 15 minutes playing around with it. SWEET!


I have yet to see an answer to this question (in all the early talk...)

Once you install the new version (2) - do you still have access to the old version (1) ?
(there are aspects to it - Ver 1 - that I like and some of those don't appear to be in Ver 2)

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Yes. I just confirmed both EZKeys 1 and EZKeys 2 are coexisting on my machine.

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Yes. I just confirmed both EZKeys 1 and EZKeys 2 are coexisting on my machine.


Thanks for that, Dan...

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By the way, your only option is to install the ~4Gb library to your c:\ drive.

There is a quick step-by-step in the manual chapter 8.4.8 on how you can relocate your libraries after they are installed.

https://www.toontrack.com/manual/ezkeys-2/8/8-4-the-settings-menu/#8-4-8-the-ezkeys-content-on-your-file-system

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EZK2....
Looking pretty, scalable, powerful, but VERY sluggish compared to original for simple tasks. Thinks too much smile
Workflow, it seems gotten more complex too. More steps. I am talking about simple: move, slice, cut.

Biggest disappointment so far: Many 3rd party loop libraries do not have the loops set at Bar1/Beat1 and that messes up EZkeys. So lets say you have or picked up a decent melodic loop pack that has for example 100 files, that do not start at first bar, you are up for lot of manual work re-saving them to work properly in EZkeys. Some packs are much larger than 100 files...I was hoping this would be fixed in EZkeys2, but it's not.

Bottom line, definitely an upgrade for the better, but will take more time to complete basic tasks and still picky on 3rd party stuff.

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