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#773765 - 08/14/23 11:59 AM
[Band-in-a-Box for Windows]
New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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Here’s an alpha of “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries https://www.pgmusic.com/manuals/chat/This uses a knowledge base of the online BiaB manual. And you can query it with natural language queries. Right now it just has the BiaB 2023 for windows essentials manual, and so it has no info about sales, or styles disks etc. btw) It uses OpenAI “under the hood”, but is just accessed from our web page. We can easily add lots to the knowledge base so that it can answer more questions. For example, we could “feed it” our FAQ and other knowledge documents. We could also allow interested users to submit FAQ style question/answers or just knowledge points that they want added to the database. ‘For example, now it doesn’t know how to answer what XPro vs Xtra styles is, but it would when we tell it that. It retains a log of questions that were asked, so we’d be able to see what questions it was missing to improve it by making sure the answer is in the documentation. But for just having the essentials manual, it does a good job on most questions (maybe 70%), at least better than the current “search” we have that just uses Google to find web pages with key words. At least this answers a question or says “I don’t know”
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#773773 - 08/14/23 01:19 PM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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This is great news. Especially that it is extensible and allows the feeding of knowledge documents. As a test I asked it "How do you run multiple instances of Band in a Box? And it said it didn't know the answer. I have an MS Word and PDF file that explains how to do this. But this forum won't allow me to upload them. Attached is a snippet of the file. Over the coming months and years it should become quite smart, indeed a 21st century users manual 
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#773776 - 08/14/23 01:52 PM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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Cool stuff. I just asked how to print 5/4 time songs ... and got detailed instructions. Way to go!
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#773794 - 08/14/23 04:45 PM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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This is very cool! You may have to try your question several ways in order to get a helpful response! For example, I asked, and Chat PG said, I don't know what you mean by "sour notes." Can you please provide more context or clarify your question? then I asked it this way, and Chat PG said, To fix sour notes, you can use the "Fix Sour Notes" feature. This feature automatically corrects notes in polyphonic audio. When a chord is played with multiple notes at once, this feature can fix certain notes within that chord so that the note won't clash with the chord progression or other tracks. In the dialog, you can select one of the rules for the auto-fix. So, don't give up if your first try yields no results!
Edited by JohnJohnJohn (08/14/23 04:47 PM)
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#773882 - 08/15/23 11:21 AM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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Nice job, Peter!
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#774025 - 08/17/23 01:15 AM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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Nice: Since it is OpenAI-based, it works with any language - questions and answers.
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#774027 - 08/17/23 02:22 AM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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Thanks Peter, very helpful.
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#774051 - 08/17/23 07:55 AM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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It's certainly much faster than looking in the manual for the answer. And when I'm working on a project, time is important.
I ran a test and it was back with the answer in 3 seconds. Very nice.... I wouldn't even have found the table of contents or the index in that amount of time let alone turn to the page indicated, find the answer and read it.
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#774079 - 08/17/23 11:50 AM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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Can we apply this fast AI powered results to programing the wishlist into action ?
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#775096 - 08/29/23 01:39 PM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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I tried the ChatPG interface a while back and was pleasantly surprised by the results. Rather less so this time when I'm really trying to find an answer: how to set up mixed-case roman chord notation in band-in-a-box
To set up mixed-case Roman chord notation in Band-in-a-Box, you can follow these steps:
Open Band-in-a-Box and go to the Preferences menu. In the Preferences menu, select the Chords tab. Under the Chord Display Options, check the box that says "Display Roman Chords in Mixed Case." Click OK to save the changes.
By enabling this option, Band-in-a-Box will display Roman chords in mixed case, allowing you to differentiate between major and minor chords more easily ... which sounds rather helpful, except that I think one can't do as it advises. Can that really be done, are the instructions somehow skewed, or is the AI making it up as it goes along?
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#775475 - 09/05/23 06:52 AM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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And I couldn't help but notice you said it this far only knows about the Windows side of things...
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#775491 - 09/05/23 09:58 AM
[Band-in-a-Box for Windows]
Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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chatPG enhanced! Updated chatPG https://www.pgmusic.com/manuals/chat/- Uses full BiaB User's Guide (Mac and Windows), plus other current sales information from the website - Context of discussion is remembered, Follow-up questions are answered in the context of the current conversation - Responses are formatted (lists, paragraphs, line breaks - Multi-line input allowed (e.g. shift+click) - questions are shown above answer. - Links are included in responses when possible - Option to select your OS (windows or Mac)
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#775495 - 09/05/23 10:06 AM
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Re: New!.. “Chat PG” - AI powered BiaB documentation using natural language queries
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Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
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National Day for Truth and Reconciliation - Holiday Hours
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Review - Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Windows is Overflowing with Features!
Dennis posted his very thorough Band-in-a-Box® review recently, where he dives into some of the new features added with version 2023: Sound-Guy's Band-in-a-Box Review
Read his thoughts on the Download & Install Manager, partial track regeneration, Playable RealTracks, Audio Editing, the addition of SynthMaster, the VST DAW Plugin, and more!
"Band-in-a-Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is, without negative connotation, a monster of a program. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. No DAW can do some of the things BIAB does, while BIAB can do a lot that DAWs do."
Band-in-a-Box® Tutorials for Low-vision and Blind Program Users
Our friends at EyesFree_Tutorials have just released their Band-in-a-Box Tutorials, Bundle 2!
Created for low-vision and blind program users, this collection of Band-in-a-Box for Windows tutorials includes 31 audio instruction files and 19 music files for practice, plus help documents. Specific topics include "ABACA, let's make a song form," "Recording melody and lead-in," "Playing and editing: part markers; the handy clipboard. The play function. Search and replace," and more!
Learn more about their new tutorials, and connect with Roy & Gudrun to order the Band-in-a-Box Tutorials, Bundle 2 here.
Introducing... ChatPG!
Looking for answers to your questions about Band-in-a-Box? From "How do I ____?" to "What do I ____?" to "What is ____?" and more, you'll find your answers when you ask ChatPG!
We will be constantly updating the resources for this powerful addition to our website based on suggestions & feedback, as well as all of the questions that have been asked by program users and website visitors.
Videos! Get To Know XPro Styles PAK 5 & Xtra Styles PAK 16 for Band-in-a-Box® 2023
XPro Styles PAK 5 adds 75 new RealStyles for rock, pop, jazz, funk, and country, and 25 styles based around MIDI SuperTracks that utilize the SynthMaster plugin!
Here's just a taste of what XPro Styles PAK 5 has in store: electronic Latin funk, spacey dancehall grooves, soulful Americana ballads, heavy house beats, vibin' cool jazz, rollicking country train beats, playful pop country jams, gritty blues rock, modern disco funk, moody synthwave, subdued bossa nova, lo-fi jazz, and many more! Pick up XPro Styles PAK 5 today!
What are XPro Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2023 (or higher). Each PAK includes over 100 styles!
XPro Styles PAKs aren't exclusive to Pro users, there's a huge range of RealStyles available for everyone - even Audiophile customers! That's right, XPro Styles PAKs can be used with ANY Band-in-a-Box® 2023 package!
XPro Styles PAK 5: https://youtu.be/QdhS9tc0y_s
Xtra Styles PAK 16 includes an absolute plethora of styles... 200 to be exact! 50 new styles each for Jazz, Country, Rock & Pop, and Praise & Worship!
Take a gander at what you can expect to find: modern disco funk, exciting gospel shout, busy jazz fusion, soulful R&B ballads, various Americana styles, modern pop country, blistering heavy metal, uplifting worship rock, lo-fi hip hop, a plethora of progressive rock, old-timey autoharp, modern surf rock, and many more!
What are Xtra Styles PAKs?
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2023 (or higher). With over 2,600 styles included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-16, the possibilities are endless!
Xtra Styles PAK 16 requires the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® version 2023. They won't work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the 2023 UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition..
Xtra Styles PAK 16: https://youtu.be/KP1svm_RMfI
How do I know if I have XPro Styles PAKs or Xtra Styles PAKs?
You can find out in Band-in-a-Box® by clicking the "Add-ons" button in the StylePicker. Show me how.
Just Released - XPro PAK 5 & Xtra Styles PAK 16 for Band-in-a-Box® 2023!
We're back with 300 new RealStyles included in XPro Styles PAK 5 & Xtra Styles PAK 16!
XPro Styles PAK 5 adds 75 new RealStyles for rock, pop, jazz, funk, and country, and 25 styles based around MIDI SuperTracks that utilize the SynthMaster plugin!
Xtra Styles PAK 16 includes an absolute plethora of styles... 200 to be exact! 50 new styles each for Jazz, Country, Rock & Pop, and Praise & Worship!
Amp up your Band-in-a-Box® 2023 experience when you add XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs!
Each PAK can be purchased for $49... Order XPro Styles PAKS | Order Xtra Styles PAKs
Mac User? Click here for your OS specific announcement.
Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Mac - Translations Available!
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