|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,884
Expert
|
OP
Expert
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,884 |
Been away for a while. No inspiration whatsoever, of late. So, this morning I was doodling on BIAB, mindlessly going from style to style, trying to find something to spark some sort of inspiration. Long story short: found this style, wrote the chords, let the saxophone solo do its own thing ... lo and behold, a new track. I just wrote the chords, the rest is all BIAB - an incredible effort from BIAB, I'm sure you'll agree. Nevertheless: I can't tell for the life of me what the end product is; i.e. whether it's "any good", haha. So ... here it is, I'll let you "have at it", as Floyd usually says, haha  - and I'll of course take your feedback very much on board! Thanks for listening and for any comments!  Freedom THE BAND: ****** Song Summary ************* Title: MM - Magdalen - 24 August 2023 File:MM - Magdalen - 24 August 2023.SGU Key=C , Tempo 65, Length (m:s)=3:41 No intro. 56 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 56. Repeat x1 chorus No Melody No Soloist track. Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0, Style is _MIRROR.STY (Mirror Smooth Jazz Soloist) RealTracks in style: 2960:Bass, Acoustic, SmoothBalladNeil Ev16 065 RealTracks in style: 910:Piano, Electric, Rhythm SmoothBallad Ev16 065 RealTracks in style: 1060:Sax, Soprano, Soloist SmoothJazzBallad Ev16 065 RealTracks in style: 1543:Synth Pad, PopBelieve Ev16 065 RealDrums in style:** N/A ** ModernJazzMellow16ths^1-a:Hat,Rimshot , b:BusyHat,Snare *******************
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 6,151
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 6,151 |
James,
This sounds very inspired to me! Love the melody. The sax sounds great - really stands out in the mix.
Much enjoyed.
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 3,012
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 3,012 |
Yeah, that soprano is priceless, James. SO many notes in each measure. Hmmm, seems to me that you are not recognizing the inspiration that runs through you. This whole piece shows your inspiring use of chord structure. There were a few measures toward the end where it sounded like a second sax took over then left. Yet it seemed fitting as it told the listener the end was coming.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 1,156
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 1,156 |
James,
I like this piece, it is quite relaxing and has a nice flow.
Sometimes the sax is a little too hectic for my taste, but overall I enjoyed listening to it.
Making bits and bytes sound good... Me on YouTubeA worn acoustic guitar, an even older keyboard, some software and lots of ideas...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,122
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,122 |
Nicely done.
Personally, the slow tempo would be better served with a sax that was more relaxed and slower, savoring each note rather than trying to cram dozens of notes into each measure. In several places, it did play perfectly for the tempo and groove. The ending was really nice.... laid back and mello sax playing.... the beginning was a bit over the top.
I run into this occasionally when I'm looking for the perfect track.... just keep searching the real tracks. I look at the recommended tempo of the tracks to see what is in the tempo range of the song. That usually gives me several good candidates.
Last edited by Guitarhacker; 08/25/23 03:29 AM.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but you can't do both.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,501
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,501 |
Very pleasing to the ear, James
Vic
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,239
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,239 |
James,
Always a fun idea to experiment.
A pleasant progression. Mix is good.
I don't much care for all the fast note runs that the sax does (I was going to say "gyrations").
That is, of course, a personal opinion.
I thought it needed to "breathe" a bit - which it never seems to. That is often the case with BIAB soloing, but if you regenerate (many times) you can usually find enough variation to get what you want/need. That being said, perhaps this IS what you wanted.
Also, I did not hear any kind of "theme" to the soloing. Just random soloing. Creating some repetition would help that.
Opinions. You know what they say about them...
fj
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,143
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,143 |
A bit too frenetic on the sax for me. By itself it wasn't bad, but it didn't seem to be going anywhere, other than notes for the sake of notes. It's tough to make a RealTracks instrumental work - especially if you're using the same instrument all the way through the track. It's a bit like poetry written with a Markov chain - the detail is there, but it lacks the coherence of a larger form. Still, a pleasant listen, and a something of a change as well! 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,052
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,052 |
I like to manic sax parts but the rhythm behind it should, in some form or other, match it at the beginning. Once it's established as a motif it rides the rest of it's revisits well.
I like your choices and arrangement.
The chord progression is JD all the way but little different too.
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,884
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,884 |
Bob, Marty, B.D. Thomas, Herb, Vic, floyd, David C and Ray: THANK YOU so much for listening and for your kind comments! Marty: maybe you're right, maybe I don't recognise the inspiration which flows through me. It's not easy, though, when one cannot at all figure out what to write, next but maybe I just need to sit down and write, anyway? Thanks so much for your wonderful support! Herb, floyd, David C and Ray: yes, the sax has (too?) many notes in its melody. And yes, the melody is going nowhere, so to speak. My own thoughts were that the chord progression is real slow, so, to contrast, I liked the fast notes of the sax. But, if that didn't come through, I have to ask myself why not. Still - that contrast was what I was going for As for the melody, that was (believe it or not) deliberate, too. I wanted to hang around C major, as much as possible, only departing briefly, to return quickly - so I didn't really want to take the listener on too complicated a journey, melodically, either. Argh - looks like I need to re-think things, a little? That's life - if things don't work out as one intends - thanks for pointing things out David C: agree completely re: "poetry written with a Markov chain" . That's my fault ... I guess I need to vary the orchestration/arrangement a little, instrumentally, so that it keeps people's attention from beginning to end, and is not "the same thing" all the time, texture-wise, if nothing else. Something to definitely keep in mind, for me! So: thank you, everyone, again! This was just a doodle (as I said in my original post), for the sake of unblocking my creative block, so to speak. As such, it went better than I thought it would, haha ... thanks for taking of your time with it!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 104
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 104 |
Beautiful song. the sound of the saxophone is very good
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 13,569
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 13,569 |
We enjoyed the doodle being longtime fans of a soprano sax. Over the years, FWIW, our approach to RT solos has been to take multiple regens and cut/splice them to arrive at what our notion was for the feel of the song. RTs are amazing ... they just, at least for us, need a little tweaking to speak to our song concept. No surprise there as the RT session guy/gal is a great musician but has no idea what you are thinking! J&B
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,884
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,884 |
Thanks laurent, glad you enjoyed it. Thank you, Janice and Bud - great advice ... I must stop assuming "my" musicians are telepathic . Thanks so much for listening
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,466
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,466 |
A very relaxing, introspective feel to your song. I agree with some others: the slower sax parts fit well, but the faster bits go against the grain of the calming mood you've established in your composition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,885
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,885 |
KennyG eat your hear out, James is here.
This is a great song except for those rapid soprano notes. But that is only my opinion. I think the rest of the song is excellent.
Dear Mother in Law
Don't tell me how to bring up my children.
I'm living with one of yours.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software and hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Mac is macOS Sonoma Compatible!
We're over the moon to announce that the latest Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Mac Build 707 is compatible with macOS Sonoma!
Refresh your Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Mac today with this free update to resolve visibility of notation in the Notation Window, apply smoother use of notation features, update to the Drums VU meter, and add the newest version of the DAW Plugin (5.5.13).
Learn more about Build 707 and download it here.
The Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Mac German, French, and Italian language patches have also been updated with Build 707! Download your Build 707 language patch here.
Revisit: Eyes on Success featuring PG Music Inc., Band-in-a-Box®, and the Updated JAWS Script
In the past, Eyes on Success featured an episode that discussed our company history and Band-in-a-Box® program with Tobin, our chief development officer, including how Band-in-a-Box® is even more accessible with the help of their JAWS screen reader scripts!
Later on this month, Eyes on Success will be releasing an episode that features Gudrun Brunot talking about her new tutorials about how to use Band-in-a-Box® with JAWS.
It's a great idea to pair the two episodes together!
So, while waiting for their Gudrun Brunot episode, take 30 minutes and to listen to this episode from Eyes on Success. To download and listen to the podcast, use the link www.EyesOnSuccess.net/eos_2344_podcast.mp3
Eyes on Success is a weekly radio show / podcast geared to the visually impaired called "Eyes On Success" and that can be found at www.EyesOnSuccess.net.
Find out more about the show and get links to past episodes at www.EyesOnSuccess.net
Find their podcast on iTunes or use the URL: www.EyesOnSuccess.net/eos_podcast
User Tip: How to add drum fills without changing any other tracks
MarioD has shared some great advice when it comes to adding drum fills without changing any other tracks in your song:
There have been a number of questions asking how to add drum fills without changing any other tracks in a song. This is especially important if one is holding a chord for a few measures and wants to add a drum fill prior to the next chord. The following is how to accomplish that:
1-get the instruments/tracks to play like you want but don't worry about the drums for now.
2-generate the song.
3-freeze all tracks
4-unfreeze the drum track
5-add your fills where you want them
6-generated the song again - note this will only generate the drum track and not the frozen tracks
7- when you get the drums like you want them freeze the track
Have your own program tip to share? Post it on our Tips & Tricks forum!
Review - Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Windows is Overflowing with Features!
Dennis posted his very thorough Band-in-a-Box® review recently, where he dives into some of the new features added with version 2023: Sound-Guy's Band-in-a-Box Review
Read his thoughts on the Download & Install Manager, partial track regeneration, Playable RealTracks, Audio Editing, the addition of SynthMaster, the VST DAW Plugin, and more!
"Band-in-a-Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is, without negative connotation, a monster of a program. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. No DAW can do some of the things BIAB does, while BIAB can do a lot that DAWs do."
Band-in-a-Box® Tutorials for Low-vision and Blind Program Users
Our friends at EyesFree_Tutorials have just released their Band-in-a-Box Tutorials, Bundle 2!
Created for low-vision and blind program users, this collection of Band-in-a-Box for Windows tutorials includes 31 audio instruction files and 19 music files for practice, plus help documents. Specific topics include "ABACA, let's make a song form," "Recording melody and lead-in," "Playing and editing: part markers; the handy clipboard. The play function. Search and replace," and more!
Learn more about their new tutorials, and connect with Roy & Gudrun to order the Band-in-a-Box Tutorials, Bundle 2 here.
Introducing... ChatPG!
Looking for answers to your questions about Band-in-a-Box? From "How do I ____?" to "What do I ____?" to "What is ____?" and more, you'll find your answers when you ask ChatPG!
We will be constantly updating the resources for this powerful addition to our website based on suggestions & feedback, as well as all of the questions that have been asked by program users and website visitors.
Videos! Get To Know XPro Styles PAK 5 & Xtra Styles PAK 16 for Band-in-a-Box® 2023
XPro Styles PAK 5 adds 75 new RealStyles for rock, pop, jazz, funk, and country, and 25 styles based around MIDI SuperTracks that utilize the SynthMaster plugin!
Here's just a taste of what XPro Styles PAK 5 has in store: electronic Latin funk, spacey dancehall grooves, soulful Americana ballads, heavy house beats, vibin' cool jazz, rollicking country train beats, playful pop country jams, gritty blues rock, modern disco funk, moody synthwave, subdued bossa nova, lo-fi jazz, and many more! Pick up XPro Styles PAK 5 today!
What are XPro Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2023 (or higher). Each PAK includes over 100 styles!
XPro Styles PAKs aren't exclusive to Pro users, there's a huge range of RealStyles available for everyone - even Audiophile customers! That's right, XPro Styles PAKs can be used with ANY Band-in-a-Box® 2023 package!
XPro Styles PAK 5: https://youtu.be/QdhS9tc0y_s
Xtra Styles PAK 16 includes an absolute plethora of styles... 200 to be exact! 50 new styles each for Jazz, Country, Rock & Pop, and Praise & Worship!
Take a gander at what you can expect to find: modern disco funk, exciting gospel shout, busy jazz fusion, soulful R&B ballads, various Americana styles, modern pop country, blistering heavy metal, uplifting worship rock, lo-fi hip hop, a plethora of progressive rock, old-timey autoharp, modern surf rock, and many more!
What are Xtra Styles PAKs?
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2023 (or higher). With over 2,600 styles included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-16, the possibilities are endless!
Xtra Styles PAK 16 requires the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® version 2023. They won't work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the 2023 UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition..
Xtra Styles PAK 16: https://youtu.be/KP1svm_RMfI
How do I know if I have XPro Styles PAKs or Xtra Styles PAKs?
You can find out in Band-in-a-Box® by clicking the "Add-ons" button in the StylePicker. Show me how.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums67
Topics79,722
Posts713,146
Members38,080
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean