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Complete Failure! I use the insert section text feature often, however, not often enough to remember where it is. The AI was useless.

Can I get some true intelligence on how to add text? There needs to be a visible area for me to click in, but it just ain't there any more.


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If you go to "Chord Display" you can choose Layers | Section Text

Is that what you were looking for?

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That is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks.


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So what is with the AI instructions which are so off the mark? Is it just guessing? How can it be so intelligent and be so wrong?


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It's probably due to 'section names' not being interpreted as 'section text'

We're constantly reviewing ChatPG results, and will be adding to the resources it uses when gathering the response/reply/answer to inquiries. So, it will get 'smarter' with time smile

If you have any requests or want to add any knowledge to these resources, check out Peter's post: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=775499


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Originally Posted By: Callie - PG Music
It's probably due to 'section names' not being interpreted as 'section text'

We're constantly reviewing ChatPG results, and will be adding to the resources it uses when gathering the response/reply/answer to inquiries. So, it will get 'smarter' with time smile

Not sure if the developers are thinking along these lines but "wiring in" a synonym dictionary as opposed to telling it (in this case) "names"="text" may be a more general solution.

This way it could understand that music=song=track, beat=BPM=rhythm, volume=loudness=dB and other equivalencies that humans may type in their queries.

In other words, solve the problem "generally" and opposed to "specifically" . . . just a thought.

Just don't let it become sentient wink


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So what is with the AI instructions which are so off the mark? Is it just guessing? How can it be so intelligent and be so wrong?


The answer was wrong but actually not too far off. In the Notation Window, you DO get the Insert and edit Section Text context menu items, and it works exactly like it described. It was wrong about the context menu item being in the chord sheet, although it WOULD make sense for us to have a menu item for the section text layer in the Chord Sheet's context menu. It is not clear why it was saying "depending on the software" since it should 'know' that it's answering the question in the context of the Band-in-a-Box software.

To answer your question, it can be wrong for the same reasons that ChatGPT is often wrong since it uses language models developed by Open AI. All of this technology currently suffers from the very significant and poorly understood problem of hallucinations - sometimes generating false or nonsensical information that doesn't seem to fit with the data it was fed. You will have encountered this if you use ChatGPT for factual data (as opposed to creative writing for example) - answers that sound extremely confident but are inaccurate or even completely bogus. ( as an aside, if you think you haven't encountered this, just make sure to verify things you know nothing about with other sources... )

We can improve the quality and amount of data it has about Band-in-a-Box, which should help reduce hallucinations. I asked it a few random questions about Band-in-a-Box and it did a decent job. I find that it can answer some questions correctly even if the answer is not in the data. For example, somehow it could generate an answer on entering a blues progression (not a perfect answer, but a correct one), even though that specific information is not in the docs.





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