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Hi everybody,

I would like to insert 3 individual notes at the early beginning of a backing track.
I guess this is feasible but I don't know how.

In addition, can I choose a specific instrument (a banjo) to play these notes ?

Thanks for a help.

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You can copy and paste in the Audio Edit (enable Snap) if you want pickup notes or use midi notes and select a banjo as instrument.

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I followed the steps you showed me, but I din't get the window where I could choose the bars where to insert the notes.
Instead, I got this comment: Audio is frozen.
Where can I unfreeze Audio ?

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Originally Posted by Papity
I followed the steps you showed me, but I din't get the window where I could choose the bars where to insert the notes.
Instead, I got this comment: Audio is frozen.
Where can I unfreeze Audio ?

Try this?

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I already did it, but no result.
Audio is in red with a red star.

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I hadly ever use BIAB to do this as all my work apart from initial rough mx is done in RB but this should work. Open the mixer and choose an unused utility track. right click and choose 'select midi patch.' choose GM patch 106 banjo. clcik the notation icon and choose staff roll notation mode. then enter your notes using the mouse. the manual will tell you how to edit time pitch and velocity. you don't want audio as the way to enter your notes is by midi.

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Originally Posted by Papity
I already did it, but no result.
Audio is in red with a red star.

I showed it on the Audio track but you can do it on any track, don't use the Audio track if you have a file loaded on it.
Use the alt+F8 to generate on bar 1 up as it won't generate on the count-in bars so you need to cut and paste it to bar 0.

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If the OP uses midi and the staff role they can choose exactly where they want the notes in relation to the rest of the song.......they can always add bars to give themselves space....... i really think midi is the answer here

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Originally Posted by Papity
I already did it, but no result.
Audio is in red with a red star.

I showed it on the Audio track but you can do it on any track, don't use the Audio track if you have a file loaded on it.
Use the alt+F8 to generate on bar 1 up as it won't generate on the count-in bars so you need to cut and paste it to bar 0.


Finally I found how to unfreeze the Audio track (in "Track Settings and Actions").
I can't use the Alt+F8 shortcut due to the lack of F keys on my laptop.
Is there another way to open the "Regenerate Parts of a Track" window ?

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Originally Posted by Bob Calver
If the OP uses midi and the staff role they can choose exactly where they want the notes in relation to the rest of the song.......they can always add bars to give themselves space....... i really think midi is the answer here

I appreciate your support, but is there a technical reason to avoid using real sound i.o. Midi ? I would like making the song as realistic as possible, ... even using an artificial voice !

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Originally Posted by Papity
Finally I found how to unfreeze the Audio track (in "Track Settings and Actions").
I can't use the Alt+F8 shortcut due to the lack of F keys on my laptop.
Is there another way to open the "Regenerate Parts of a Track" window ?

In the track menu > Track Actions > Regenerate window.

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Originally Posted by Papity
Finally I found how to unfreeze the Audio track (in "Track Settings and Actions").
I can't use the Alt+F8 shortcut due to the lack of F keys on my laptop.
Is there another way to open the "Regenerate Parts of a Track" window ?

Yes. Right-click on the track radio button at the top of the screen and go to Track Actions | Auto Regenerate Part of RealTracks.


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have you tried midi? your assumption that it will not sound good is not corrrect. the quality of sound does depend on the synth and the sample but lots of us use midi and in fact - i believe - playable RealTracks are midi using the samples from the RT recording. and of course finding the audio you need of the right three notes is almost impossible. with midi you can choose exactly what you want. for a full discussion on this read the post here............

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=777473&page=1

read the post and if you if you follow the link i put in one of my posts you'll find a sound clip of me doing exaclty what you want to do with a specific set of notes and midi

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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Originally Posted by Papity
Finally I found how to unfreeze the Audio track (in "Track Settings and Actions").
I can't use the Alt+F8 shortcut due to the lack of F keys on my laptop.
Is there another way to open the "Regenerate Parts of a Track" window ?

Yes. Right-click on the track radio button at the top of the screen and go to Track Actions | Auto Regenerate Part of RealTracks.

I found what I was looking for by clicking on "Regenerate window" (and not "Regenerate parts of Realtracks")

Thank you for your time

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Originally Posted by Bob Calver
have you tried midi? your assumption that it will not sound good is not corrrect. the quality of sound does depend on the synth and the sample but lots of us use midi and in fact - i believe - playable RealTracks are midi using the samples from the RT recording. and of course finding the audio you need of the right three notes is almost impossible. with midi you can choose exactly what you want. for a full discussion on this read the post here............

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=777473&page=1

read the post and if you if you follow the link i put in one of my posts you'll find a sound clip of me doing exaclty what you want to do with a specific set of notes and midi

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Originally Posted by Papity
I found what I was looking for by clicking on "Regenerate window" (and not "Regenerate parts of Realtracks")
Thank you for your time
That's great. I hope it was of some value. Good luck with your project.


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Hi,

This is very interesting. I had a very bad image of the sound quality of Midi and you make me open my eyes on a new reality.
I am following your instructions but I don't understand what you mean by "click the notation icon". Where is it located ?

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Originally Posted by Papity
Hi,

This is very interesting. I had a very bad image of the sound quality of Midi and you make me open my eyes on a new reality.
I am following your instructions but I don't understand what you mean by "click the notation icon". Where is it located ?
I think the intention was to click the 'Views' tab and then select Piano Roll (or Notation), and enter the notes manually from there.

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the BIAB GUI is a bit crowded so thanks to Audiotrack for the picture. let us know how you get on

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Technically this gives excellent results, but the Midi sounds of a banjo, a guitar, a mandolin is very far from expected, certainly in conjunction with RealTracks.

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