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Hi,
The more I learn about Styles the more I am confused.
In brief, I try to assign specific styles to some of the sections of a song, but the result is the style of the 1st bar remaining along the whole song. So frustrating !

I tried to achieve my goal in different manner :
- highlighting (in black) the chosen bar, going to « Styles », « Styles picker », choosing the style, clicking “OK”
- right clicking on the bar, going to « Bar Settings », clicking on « .STY », choosing the style,
clicking “OK”
- clicking on the bar, right clicking on the Style denomination (in the wide black rectangle), clicking on “Change
Style at any bar”, clicking on “Close”
- using the “Multistyles” approach

Nothing worked and I can’t figure out where I act wrong.
Would you know how to solve this ?

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Originally Posted by Papity
Hi,
The more I learn about Styles the more I am confused.
In brief, I try to assign specific styles to some of the sections of a song, but the result is the style of the 1st bar remaining along the whole song. So frustrating !

I tried to achieve my goal in different manner :
- highlighting (in black) the chosen bar, going to « Styles », « Styles picker », choosing the style, clicking “OK”
- right clicking on the bar, going to « Bar Settings », clicking on « .STY », choosing the style,
clicking “OK”
- clicking on the bar, right clicking on the Style denomination (in the wide black rectangle), clicking on “Change
Style at any bar”, clicking on “Close”
- using the “Multistyles” approach

Nothing worked and I can’t figure out where I act wrong.
Would you know how to solve this ?

This method should work, but check that the song isn't frozen first:
Select the bar where you want the Style to change and press the <F5> function key to open the Bar Settings dialog, then select to change the style from there:

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Don't confuse MultiStyles with Changing styles. Two different things.

Use the F5 like you have been. Select the bar when you want the change to occur. But keep in mind the changes do not get reflected/updated in the Mixer. So you don't see the changes, you will only hear the changes at the bar you turned them on until you return to original style at a subsequent bar. Not exactly intuitive.


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Whatever style I choose on further bars, Band in a Box only reminds the first bar style and play it along the whole song.

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Hi Papity.

Could you please outline what the starting style is and what style you change to later on. I'll try it out and see what happens for me.

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Just upload the song file and someone will see what is or is not wrong.


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I wonder if this is a question that is being obscured by translation.

When Papity changes a style later in the song using F5, he/she writes: "Band in a Box only reminds the first bar style and play it along the whole song" (my emphasis added)

Dan (username MusicStudent) said, and I can verify, that the track names in the Mixer do not change when the style changes. I hear the style change but I don't see anything change in the mixer. Whole new instruments might be playing.

Is that the question here? That the style change works but you don't see visual evidence of that?

And is this really Multisyles, or choosing another style? Papity, you can upload your song (MGU or SGU file) to a free place like Dropbox, put it in a Public area, and post a link to the song here. Then as Dan suggested, we will know for certain.


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Originally Posted by Noel96
Hi Papity.

Could you please outline what the starting style is and what style you change to later on. I'll try it out and see what happens for me.

Regards,
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Thanks for your proposal, but this happens whatever the styles, I tried many combinations.
Could it be that the problem comes from a bad configuration of the Midi/Audio Driver Setup ?

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Originally Posted by Matt Finley
I wonder if this is a question that is being obscured by translation.

When Papity changes a style later in the song using F5, he/she writes: "Band in a Box only reminds the first bar style and play it along the whole song" (my emphasis added)

Dan (username MusicStudent) said, and I can verify, that the track names in the Mixer do not change when the style changes. I hear the style change but I don't see anything change in the mixer. Whole new instruments might be playing.

Is that the question here? That the style change works but you don't see visual evidence of that?

And is this really Multisyles, or choosing another style? Papity, you can upload your song (MGU or SGU file) to a free place like Dropbox, put it in a Public area, and post a link to the song here. Then as Dan suggested, we will know for certain.

I apologise for my bad english, but I am asking for help in both forums, english and french (my mothertongue), to maximise my chances to find a solution.
You are absolutely right about the bad use of the term "reminds", I should have written "keeps" or something similar.

I will try to explain the situation in a few words.
This is not about multistyles but well about changing styles.
It is not about visual evidence of changing styles but well about styles (audio) that don't change when they should.

I guess the problem comes from a bad setting I "applied" somewhere, but where ?
Could that be in the Midi/Audio Driver Setup ?

NB: The track name doesn't change in the mixer when the style changes, but it changes in the black rectangle below the title of the song, I have seen it a week ago before my problem appeared.

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As I can see, no track is frozen.

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I would suggest try Option > Return to Factory Settings > Most and see if that makes a difference.

Also, I think the only place you see that the Style has changed is directly below the song title window.

Here is a quick example where I changed the style on bar 5. The first image is the original Style:
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Here is the Style showing when the song reaches Bar 5:
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That was the solution, now everything is going well.
Thanks for the suggestion.

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Originally Posted by Papity
That was the solution, now everything is going well.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Great. smile
Which one was the solution?
- Return to Factory Settings?
or
- The only place you see that the Style has changed is directly below the song title window?


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Originally Posted by Papity
That was the solution, now everything is going well.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Great. smile
Which one was the solution?

Ya, confused


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I have to be honnest , I stopped discussing in this forum about changing styles because knobody seemed to understand my problem, despite their efforts.

Now, I found the solution, by chance, and I wish to share it.
When programming a style for Bar #40 (just an example) I realized it was coming at Bar #80.
I tried with Bar #20 and it came at Bar #40.
So, there is a Factor 2 between what I planned and what I got.

Then I made de connection with the tempo of the styles I used.
In the Bluegrass section I am interested in, the same style appears twice.
e.g. _BLUGRG8 / Feel ev8 / Tempo 260 / Bluegrass Reso Solo 8ths @260 / Set #Half-double
_BLUGRGS / Feel ev16 / Tempo 130 / Bluegrass w/Resonator Guitar Solo / Set RT
I always selected the Style with the 8 in the name, so I guess the above mentionned Factor 2 is the reason for my concern.

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I’m trying to understand this explanation.

Are you using one or more RealTracks with a different time base (half-time or, more likely, double-time)? Is that what “Set# half-double” means?

Or are you saying that combining tracks of EV8 with EV16 caused this?


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I recall that you were asked:
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Could you please outline what the starting style is and what style you change to later on.
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Thanks for your proposal, but this happens whatever the styles
Unfortunately, only now you named two specific styles, one of which has a tempo of double the other (260 BPM vs 130 BPM).

If you had answered the original question, this might have been resolved much sooner.

What happens if you choose two styles with same or very similar recommended tempos? Does the Style change then apply at the desired bar correctly?


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Originally Posted by Matt Finley
I’m trying to understand this explanation.

Are you using one or more RealTracks with a different time base (half-time or, more likely, double-time)? Is that what “Set# half-double” means?

Or are you saying that combining tracks of EV8 with EV16 caused this?

In my song, I only use ev8 styles, there are 3 or 4 of them.
I never mixed ev8 and ev16.

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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
I recall that you were asked:
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Could you please outline what the starting style is and what style you change to later on.
and your reply was
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Thanks for your proposal, but this happens whatever the styles
Unfortunately, only now you named two specific styles, one of which has tempo of double the other (260 BPM vs 130 BPM).

If you had answered the original question, this might have been resolved much sooner.

What happens if you choose two styles with same or very similar recommended tempos? Does the Style change then apply at the desired bar correctly?

You are right, I should have given the exact description of the song earlier.

I have chosen 3 or 4 ev8 styles with the same recommended tempo of 260 bpm, but I lowered it to 210 bpm to better fit my song.

The situation is a bit tricky, to have a style applying at bar #40, I have first to go to bar #20 and change the style at this bar. And so on for the other changes, always dividing by 2 the bar number of the desired location and changing there the style.

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This still makes no sense to me, and if this
works for everyone as you describe, it needs attention.

Would you please post the song? You can’t do that here, but you can create a public place on Dropbox for free, upload the song, and post a link here.

You hinted at time base but skipped answering the first part of my question. Are you using any RealTracks with a half or double-time time base?


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