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Hi,

For some reason the RealTracks Picker options are missing in the BBPlugin and Standalone build 6.1.4
I open up a new instance of the BBPlugin, look for a particular RealTrack in the picker area, but the options are missing.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled the plugin to the latest version, also installed recent earlier versions but no luck.
I've attached a couple of pics, the first one being the BIAB main program the other being the BBPlugin and standalone.

Would there be a corrupt file I need to delete and reinstall the BBPlugin???

This does not happen in the main Band in a Box program.

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Same here. Been that way for a while. Doesn't stop you from selecting a RT for a selected track. ...If that makes you feel any better.


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Because the Picker is not part of the Plugin to have all tracks info, you are just opening Biab (BBW4) in the background, it's not part of the Plugin. BBW4 just renders the track/s to wav in the SavedTracks folder then the Plugin will play them and drag in the DAW.
If you want all the Biab main app functions you are best to just drag the wav into the DAW from Biab main app or use the Rewire VST or Import SGU Reaper,
or wait until they get all the generate code into the JUCE Plugin.

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MCity is right on this why do we need the tracks in the upper corner since it does not display all the track available. It is just the BiaB tracks. It maybe that this is in transition to a better option. A drop down or sliding list to show all the tracks. Time will tell. Hopefully we will see some more changes soon to the plugin when time allows.


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Hi Brian, the absence of the "Assign to Track" section is by design. The list of tracks in that section refer only to BIAB tracks which is why it is unnecessary for it to be included in the plugin's RealTracks Picker. To assign an RT to a particular track in the plugin, all you need to do is right-click on that track and choose Select -> RealTrack. This will open the RT Picker and place whichever RT you choose on the correct track. Hope this helps!

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Thanks Adar for the explanation and appreciate that the RT Picker section is by design, of course selecting a RealTrack is simple enough.
Just thought it would be very useful to have more options when looking for a particular RealTrack .( there are hundreds available)
Something like the RealDrums picker options would be a great addition.


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The plugin needs the multipicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! !!!!!


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Originellement posté par Rob Helms
The plugin needs the multipicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! !!!!!

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Originally Posted by Rob Helms
The plugin needs the multipicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! !!!!!
The plugin needs it's own multipicker otherwise BBW4 multipicker dialog would have to be open all the time.
Using BBW4 it would need to leave the multipicker dialog open and always ontop, and be able to read all the instruments currently on each track in the Plugin.
They just need to bite the bullet and put it all in one plugin rather than 2 apps:

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Originally Posted by musocity
They just need to bite the bullet and put it all in one plugin rather than 2 apps:
Though perhaps part of the problem is that they originally "put it all" in BBW4 with similar thinking.

I learned early in my career both the power of, and also the complications of, message passing and client-server architectures. My own approach would typically be to physically separate the various functions of the user-interface from the worker-threads and to do the interactions between them using messages via pipes or IP connections or whatever. It makes the initial implementation trickier, but allows all sorts of flexibility later on. I don't know how well that philosophy would fit a BIAB type application. Even if it does, it's likely a huge task to do it "in retrospect".


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I know I had to take the same approach with Reaper calling on BBW using AutoHotkey scripts that I ran from a Lua script in Reaper to access Biab functions then I could write the data to clipboard to send to Biab and copy to send back to Reaper.

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reaper.ExecProcess([[cmd.exe /C " cd ]] .. [[C:\\Program Files\\AutoHotkey & AutoHotkey.exe]]..[[ "]]..script_path..[[ahk\scripts\play.ahk"]],0) 
reaper.CF_SetClipboard( start_measures ..",".. number_measures )
text_tempo = reaper.CF_GetClipboard()
  

that was all a lot of messing around so I just put it all in one script to read the current frozen SGU and transfer instantly.
Why have a hidden Biab running in the background when you can run the main Biab app and instantly transfer giving a lot more control ?
[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in] But eventually I can't see any other way than a self-contained crossplatform JUCE plugin that does it all, and works the same instantly in all DAWs. It just takes way too many years getting there, I'm gettin' old frown

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