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I just listened to two songs on Soundcloud, and was required to listen to 30 seconds of advertisements before each songs would play.

When I clicked the information icon on the ad, the popup said:

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Why ads?

Every time you see or hear an ad, artists get paid. They're how we keep SoundCloud free for listeners.

Want to lose the interruptions? Go ad-free and continue to support your favorite artists with SoundCloud Go.

I'm paying SoundCloud to host my songs, so it's not "free" to me. And whatever "artist" is getting paid when advertisements pop up on my songs, it's not me. I've not marked any of my songs for monetization, but that's not stopping SoundCloud from collecting fees from advertisers. mad

I hate the idea of breaking links I've posted, but I also hate that someone has to listen to an advertisement if they want to listen to my song. And that's doubly true when I'm paying to host it and someone else is getting making money off it.

Time to start looking for somewhere else to host my music.


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Hmmm... I host songs on Soundcloud but I never listen to anyone else on the platform. I know that I get listeners but I haven't seen a dime of revenue. My Soundcloud renewal notice showed up in my email today. I think I need to do some investigating.

Thanks for the heads up!


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Originally Posted by dcuny
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Time to start looking for somewhere else to host my music.
Are you familiar with DistroKid? Worth checking out.

DistroKid

From their website:

DistroKid is the easiest way for musicians to get music into Spotify, Apple, Amazon, Tidal, TikTok, YouTube, and more. Unlimited uploads, keep 100% of your earnings, and more features than any other music distributor.

Millions of musicians rely on DistroKid. Pay only €20.99 to upload unlimited albums & songs for a year and get in stores 10-20x faster than any other distributor.

[EDIT: It's nice that their website recognizes that I'm in the EU and switches to Euro pricing. Being an American expat, I know how to read that price, even though the proper way to write it is 20,99 € (we use a comma instead of a decimal point). Still, they're the best independent music distributor I'm currently aware of.]

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Originally Posted by Mike Halloran
Hmmm... I host songs on Soundcloud but I never listen to anyone else on the platform. I know that I get listeners but I haven't seen a dime of revenue. My Soundcloud renewal notice showed up in my email today. I think I need to do some investigating.
You'll need to jump through some hoops to get any of that ad revenue. See: https://artists.soundcloud.com/monetization/soundcloud

But don't worry - if you don't go that route, they'll happily monetize your tracks without your approval.

Under their privacy rules, they state:
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We process your data to deliver content or advertisements and measure the delivery of such content or advertisements to extract insights about our website. We share this information with our partners on the basis of consent.

However, there's no option to not consent to:

  • Deliver and Present Advertising Content - 524 partners
  • Match and combine data from other data sources - 364 partners
  • Link different devices - 331 partners
  • Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically - 501 partners


That's an obscene amount of data sharing "on the basis of consent".


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Originally Posted by TheMaartian
Are you familiar with DistroKid? Worth checking out.
Thanks! I've also been building a list as I listen to people's songs. smile


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I switched over to ReverbNation from Soundcloud for that very reason, can't stand all the ads on Soundcloud. Distrokid is good if you want to get on Spotify and iTunes, etc.

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The ads are avoidable. I believe that there are mechanisms available to "Block Ads".


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Can't tell you how many times I've clicked on a link to a Soundcloud tune and thought I was listening to an avant-garde opening song sequence when it was in fact an ad...


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The ads are avoidable. I believe that there are mechanisms available to "Block Ads".
I just got a new computer, and am still in the process of configuring it. So I haven't got my ad blocker set up yet.

On my old computer, I had to open any page that used SoundCloud in Private mode, because the player refused to work. I presume it had something to do with my ad blocker. And then I'd have to remind SoundCloud not to sell my personal information.

I just don't see the point of paying $150 per year to allow them to provide a terrible experience for people wanting to hear my music, and then pay more for the privilege of hearing similarly posted music without ads.

I had foolishly assumed that ads were only being played when people chose to monetize their songs, but that's not the case. After all, they're saying that "artists" are being paid when ads are displayed. But the reality is that Soundcloud is getting paid.

That's not the service that I signed up for.

Yeah, I said this was a rant. wink


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I use +++ Bandlab +++ . They have free and subscription membership plans. You can collaborate, store and share tracks, download loops, master and a few other things for free. The subscription membership adds licensing and distribution services.

FYI, Bandlab recently bought ReverNation and is integrating it into their other services.

Take a look.


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Originally Posted by dcuny
I just don't see the point of paying $150 per year to allow them to provide a terrible experience for people wanting to hear my music, and then pay more for the privilege of hearing similarly posted music without ads.

David, exactly. It's just ridiculous. I only signed up for paid subscription so I can have more space for my stuff than free accounts offer, not to become "famous". I agree, these ads injected in content of paid accounts are unacceptable. I have my own website, but the ease of uploading to soundcloud got me lazy. With these ads I am considering switching back to my own site, or maybe even my own mini server.

While I am a huge fan of Cakewalk, I can't recommend BandLab at this point in time. Their murky business of offering subscription only (new) Sonar, took away 90% of my trust in that company. Things might change, but judging of what was happening in the past 8+ months and their aggressive tactics of shutting down every public thread that even politely/remotely talks about negative aspects of subscriptions... In my view nothing will stop them doing same as SoundCloud did or similar. Enforce limit, make it a paid only subscription product, inject ads, etc.
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Would be nice if PGM offered their own basic music hosting for customers for a small fee.

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