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Are key changes making a comeback? #817331 07/18/24 04:54 PM Songwriting
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Re: Are key changes making a comeback? pghboemike #817332 07/18/24 05:33 PM Songwriting
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Re: Are key changes making a comeback? pghboemike #817513 07/21/24 08:00 AM Songwriting
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David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,330 North Carolina	Yes. I used one on my next to last song here: THE HERO. It was heroic when I did it. It also sounded Heroic. So yes. The answer is yes. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Are key changes making a comeback? pghboemike #817523 07/21/24 11:12 AM Songwriting
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Janice & Bud Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 15,388 GA USA	We finished a song a couple of weeks ago that has two subtle mods in it. SoundCloud picked it up for placement on a trending playlist so perhaps they are back. 😀 J&B Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! Our Videos are here on our website.

Re: Are key changes making a comeback? Janice & Bud #817568 07/22/24 05:03 AM Songwriting
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,312 Melbourne, Australia	I actually really never thought that key changes were the prevailing fashion for a specific musical period. They have always had their place in music, and always will. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Are key changes making a comeback? pghboemike #817593 07/22/24 12:50 PM Songwriting
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David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,330 North Carolina	One of my favorite key changes of all time which I think is absolute genius is Penny Lane . It starts off in A. And then it goes to G for the chorus. Wow. Cool man. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Are key changes making a comeback? pghboemike #845800 03/10/25 11:16 PM Songwriting
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Andrew Dee Apprentice Joined: Mar 2025 Posts: 292 Adelaide, Sth Aust.	I hope key changes are making a comeback - as I hope borrowed chords are. While a good song all in the diatonic can be delightful, there is nothing as surprisingly beautiful as a well crafted key change or insertion of a borrowed chord. Listen to this wonderful song from late 70s (I think) Voyager - Halfway Hotel - or this song from Australian band Thirsty Merc - My completeness: Wonderful stuff! Without multi-key progressions / borrowed chords, these songs wouldn't exist. It's part of the magic that is music! Regards, Andrew D Adelaide, Sth Aust Soundcloud: https://on.soundcloud.com/SQE4btVvNVkLq74e9 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewoftheantipodes

Re: Are key changes making a comeback? pghboemike #845989 03/12/25 03:53 AM Songwriting
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Re: Are key changes making a comeback? DC Ron #845998 03/12/25 05:14 AM Songwriting
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,312 Melbourne, Australia	Agreed. I never knew it left. It can be a very versatile and intuitive part of a composition. A worthwhile added dimension. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Are key changes making a comeback? pghboemike #846031 03/12/25 09:42 AM Songwriting
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Mike Halloran Expert Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 1,796 Sillie Con Valley, California	With modern church music, key changes have become ubiquitous. It’s boring as hell. BIAB 2024 Audiophile Mac 24Core/60CoreGPU M2 MacStudioUltra/8TB/192GB Sequoia, M1 MBAir, 2012 MBP Digital Performer11, LogicPro, Finale27/Dorico/Encore/SmartScorePro64/Notion6 /Overture5

Re: Are key changes making a comeback? pghboemike #846055 03/12/25 01:31 PM Songwriting
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B.D.Thomas Veteran Joined: Jul 2022 Posts: 2,338 3rd rock from the sun	I can write songs with key changes and they are still boring. Goldmania Bella Listen on Spotify Watch on YouTube New on YouTube: Deeply Sad Music

Re: Are key changes making a comeback? B.D.Thomas #846158 03/13/25 06:07 AM Songwriting
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,312 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by B.D.Thomas I can write songs with key changes and they are still boring. Maybe it's the composer, not the song. Yes, people can also write songs without key changes "and they are still boring". It happens. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Are key changes making a comeback? Mike Halloran #846159 03/13/25 06:08 AM Songwriting
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,312 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by Mike Halloran With modern church music, key changes have become ubiquitous. It’s boring as hell. Thank goodness that I don't listen to modern church music. I hate to be bored. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Are key changes making a comeback? pghboemike #846165 03/13/25 06:35 AM Songwriting
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Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,316 Middlesex, NC	I wasn't aware they had left. As with everything else.... the song itself dictates if there's a key change/modulation in the song or not. Same thing with rit endings and bridges. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

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