Thanks to you as well Noel, for troubleshooting and being a sounding board for my growing angst. 1 more question. I tried to call up one of the HQ MIDI sounds on a song, and it gave me an error message DXi Sampletank not installed.(When I chose to install the VST version , I failed to check the Dxi box and it appears to have overwritten it with nothing) I am now confident that I can get that going as well(same process), but is it even worth it? If Sampletank is the source of the HQ instruments is it easier to just grab them and load them in, or is there something extraordinary about these patches that makes them "wonderful"(special or large sample files, special efx processing, etc,)My thoughts are: 1) once I start down that road I might as well just audition a few sounds and pick the ones I like and add my own effects. 2)even if they are good, they are kinda like presets on plugins, you always end up tweaking them to your liking anyway, so might as well start fresh.Your thoughts?