Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
We could provide an option in the future, to render the material in 24-bit when rendered.

That might help, especially if your DAW is using 24-bit. To be clear, this wouldn't be 24-bit source material in your Realtracks folders, it would be 24-bit when rendered out of BIAB. The music is already mixed internally in BIAB, RealBand (and other DAWS) using floating point, so bit depth is not an issue.


Hi Jim and Peter,
Thank you for your replies .

While I agree BIAB has great features..., I truly believe a 32 bit platform is eons behind a 64 bit platform in terms of performance. 64 bit lets us make full use of our RAM and CPU's

I (personally) have no use for 16 bit recorded tracks , even if they are up converted to 24 bit (which our DAWS currently do when we import them to suit out project rates). One thing I do know is in 2016 I have never heard of a single DAW user choosing to open a new DAW project in 16 bit as the headroom and end result of mixed tracks is atrocious compared to those of 24 bit (industry standard bit rates) or better.

I do fully realise that even if BIAB was now 64 bit platform with all new 24 bit recorded and supplied REAL Tracks ..,
- that the older real tracks that were originally 16 bit and up-converted to 24 bit (to allow them to be included with an upgraded modern BIAB offering) .., then those older 16 bit (but upconverted) real tracks would still retain that 'less pristine' 16 bit quality
>>> But I CAN live with that wink



..., My point is that the NEWLY added tracks would have been True 24 bit , and also those added in the future would be true 24 bit also.


There has to be a turning point to modernisation sometime ...,

- and this turning point is something I notice PG keeps putting off for reasons I cannot understand ,other than laziness ?
- i just don't get it ?

Perhaps the reason is : for most BIAB users the current offering is fine, and is maybe all they will ever need.



My needs are for 24 bit files to only ever be imported into my DAW
..., that can withstand the mixing, twisting , time stretched , chopped , multiple FX added etc, etc ....,
and to still have them retain their quality once they are mixed , mashed, mastered and eventually reduced to 16 bit (as in a CD)
.., and now there is a market emerging to lift that up quality of the music we buy to 24 bit anyway.

For my use - I find files that originated in 16 bits (eg; BIAB) lose too much sound fidelity after all the mixing and mashing that goes on inside a modern DAW , and as Computer power (and data storage) gets cheaper and cheaper there are increasing numbers rapidly jumping into this bandwagon (ie; using DAWS) .

PG needs to realise this and get on board also and look to these new emerging markets, rather than continuing to ignore them.

Last edited by SFG; 12/05/16 01:05 PM. Reason: typo's

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