Update: This post has a very fast, easy, cheap and maybe the best solution to this problem
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=631813#Post631813


Hi, I sent almost the same email to PG-Music support requesting this. It has all the links. I dumped the email in here. This one has the very first png picture. It effects the Vocal Wizard too. This has an added comment about no tuners going against the strandard.

Regarding the email question, I want zero transposition of pitch. I and others in the forum thread want BIAB to report the scientific notation letters as per the most popular standard being used these days. The thread below got onto this topic by chance. You can minimize your reading by going to these two posts.
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=630825#Post630825
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=630831#Post630831
Other's have jumped in to explain why other manufacturers have deviated from this most popular standard (mainly Yamaha).

My second post above references this "International Standardization Organization (ISO)" music pitches table.
http://people.virginia.edu/~pdr4h/pitch-freq.html
which has it correct (notice the "MC" standing for Middle C at C4). See the comment at the bottom of the table.
Also notice this Full size Piano demo video agrees C4 is middle C and the lowest piano key of the video matches LP in the table.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCIEcgRnMZc

This C note wiki agrees and using the c4 string search I found and extracted text from it to place below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(musical_note)
  • Middle C (the fourth C key from left on a standard 88-key piano keyboard) is designated C4 in scientific pitch notation.
  • C4 may be called Low C by someone playing a Western concert flute, which has a higher and narrower playing range than the piano, while C5 (523.251 Hz) would be Middle C. This technically inaccurate practice has led some pedagogues to encourage standardizing on C4 as the definitive Middle C in instructional materials across all instruments.
  • Note that for a classical piano and musical theory, the middle C is usually labelled as C4; However, in the MIDI standard definition (like the one used in Apple's GarageBand), this middle C (261.626 Hz) is labelled C3. In practice, a MIDI software can label middle C (261.626 Hz) as C3-C5, which can cause confusions, especially for beginners.

This A440 Wiki agrees. Extract below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440_(pitch_standard)
A440 (also known as Stuttgart pitch[1]) is the musical pitch corresponding to an audio frequency of 440 Hz, which serves as a tuning standard for the musical note of A above middle C, or A4 in scientific pitch notation. It is standardized by the International Organization for Standardization as ISO 16. While other frequencies have been (and occasionally still are) used to tune the first A above middle C, A440 is now commonly used as a reference frequency to calibrate acoustic equipment and to tune pianos, violins, and other musical instruments.

This scientific notation wiki agrees.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_pitch_notation
Scientific pitch notation avoids possible confusion between various derivatives of Helmholtz notation which use similar symbols to refer to different notes. For example, "c" in Helmholtz's original notation[2] refers to the C below middle C, whereas "C" in ABC Notation refers to middle C itself. With scientific pitch notation, middle C is always C4, and C4 is never any note but middle C. This notation system also avoids the "fussiness" of having to visually distinguish between four and five primes, as well as the typographic issues involved in producing acceptable subscripts or substitutes for them.

These eight smartphone phone and computer tuners all agree with the ISO music pitches table.
With the exception of the BIAB tuner I found no tuners that went against the (ISO Middle C being C4) standard. All the other tuners simply did not report an octave letter.
Some of the links use the #t=MinutesSeconds video jump parameter to jump to where I verified it.

1: TonalEnergy Chromatic Tuner agrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oERvzxnKpVw#t=43s

2: Peterson’s iStroboSoft agrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHASdtkeoE#t=5m3s

3: Tunable for Android agrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzhQKQAeNoo#t=1m54s

4: insTuner agrees. I got a friend to test it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7p2gMwsPjw

5: NCH Perfect Pitch agrees. (I use this one on the PC).
https://www.nch.com.au/tuner/index.html

6: Total Energy Tuner agrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry7CgWh2T2w#t=1m9s

7: This Violin tuner agrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiNJ-wE6D0M#t=55s

8: Another tuner that agrees Middle C is C4. A guitar tuner to boot but it runs on the Iphone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl767iZmggo#t=1m30s

It has become important to the Jazz jams Club now because we have a very active vocalist with some key changes requested. Again, it effects the Vocal Wizard too.

Thanks again.
John

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Last edited by bowlesj; 12/22/20 04:23 AM.
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