my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
I suppose this may, at some stage, make people happy but, for all the reasons explained in the Reaper Blog vid, it's nothing to get excited about yet. It does demonstrate how responsive Reaper is to movement, change & development. I try to stick to native Reaper VSTs for the most part with four or five non native ones that I use on a regular basis.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
Quite interesting and well timed ... probably for good reasons ... I note the mention of "nobody can take your tools away" wrt Steinberg's removal of VST2.
Whether or not it will catch on depends a huge amount on who finds it beneficial. There are already multiple audio plug-in formats and many companies support several of them and various platforms offer support for some. That it started as a means to smooth cross-platform plug-ins is encouraging for me (as primarily a Linux user), which may ease cross-platform/cross-processor support generally.
Only time will tell.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .
I try to stick to native Reaper VSTs for the most part with four or five non native ones that I use on a regular basis.
Me too, exactly. I've tried other plugins and found no advantages over the Reaper plugins. And, Reaper plugins seem to be more efficient when it comes to CPU and memory.
The exception is instrument plugins which Reaper largely doesn't have. Other than the instrument plugins I use, the only non-Reaper plugin I use is Amplitube 5. (BIAB is considered an instrument plugin).
For instruments, in addition to BIAB, I have EZDrummer3, DB 33, Mini Grand, Numa Player, Velvet, Xpand!2. They all work great in Reaper.
I try to stick to native Reaper VSTs for the most part with four or five non native ones that I use on a regular basis.
Me too, exactly. I've tried other plugins and found no advantages over the Reaper plugins. And, Reaper plugins seem to be more efficient when it comes to CPU and memory.
The exception is instrument plugins which Reaper largely doesn't have. Other than the instrument plugins I use, the only non-Reaper plugin I use is Amplitube 5. (BIAB is considered an instrument plugin).
For instruments, in addition to BIAB, I have EZDrummer3, DB 33, Mini Grand, Numa Player, Velvet, Xpand!2. They all work great in Reaper.
yep, yep. If you want/need confirmation bias try this play list of Dan Worrall testing Reaper plugs. He outlines some short comings but none that have had an impact on me and he, as a professional Reaper user, uses many of them along with some others that suit his pro work flow.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
In another life, I've programmed some VST plugins, and it's amazing how stable the API of this standard is. It's bad enough that AU and Pro Tools have to be supported as well.
if i remember reaper history from way way back , even before v 0.99 when i became a reaps user, lots of dsp fx routines had been created ? ive forgotten as its so looong ago.
i can remember way back being 'poo pooed' by some over suggesting they try the reaps plug ins and the js suites... same if I suggest that a studio try the 80 plug ins that come with computermusicmag.uk that cost 20 bucks in the states. I used to get it a coupla times each year for the dvd with the 80 plug ins n' various synths etc. still today i get 'non believers' on the reaps stuff and cm mag. ...sigh. so i dont bother tilting at windmills…lol.
the thing ive always loved bout the reaps plug ins are their low cpu usage. same reason i like the pg dx plug ins. i often wonder how many new users dont give the pg dx plugs a second look cos 'man their free'...lol.
As to clap i'm keeping an open mind. the fact that reaps devs are involved makes me ask if clap isnt important why reaper involvement and some other big names ? the reaps devs are v smart developers. if there is serious interest by the big studios in clap cos it has operational advantages/efficiences over current approaches, maybe clap will take off ?
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
Everybody is talking about it the last couple years but it ain't a thing yet. A bunch of talking heads on YouTube telling us how good it's going to be does not change this.
Steinberg's depreciation of VST 2 has certainly amped up the volume, however.
I'll be interested when it's real.
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It is real and it is used by a number of hosts and a number of plug-ins. Whether it will reach a critical mass is another matter.
It'll be a struggle between those who don't want to support yet another plug-in format, those who think CLAP may reconcile all those plug-in formats into one, those who'd like to keep their format under tight rein and so on.
It's notable for me that a number of the hosts support Linux or originally came from Linux and that a good percentage of the plug-ins support Linux. That'll be neither here nor there for many, but it's quite important for some of us. It may be more important than it seems, though, because if I would like a tool, my first question is "is it available on Linux?". If it is, I'll likely get it, if it isn't I'll likely next look for a Linux alternative, if I can't find one but there's a trial/demo Windows version I'll try is in Wine. Only if I have no other choice will I use it in Windows. At present I think I have only one "won't work on Linux" application that I use, my PCB CAD system. But I'm trying KiCad.
That said, I now have a number VSTs and most(?) have behaved properly within the yadbridge VST wrapper.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .
It is real and it is used by a number of hosts and a number of plug-ins.
That's funny.
At last count, I have over a thousand plug-ins from 47 vendors. Exactly one offers a CLAP plug. None of the 6 DAWs I might use support it.
Again, I'll be interested when it's real and I don't see that happening for a long time. Yes, everyone's talking about it but that doesn't mean a thing by itself.
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It is real and it is used by a number of hosts and a number of plug-ins.
That's funny.
At last count, I have over a thousand plug-ins from 47 vendors. Exactly one offers a CLAP plug. None of the 6 DAWs I might use support it.
Again, I'll be interested when it's real and I don't see that happening for a long time. Yes, everyone's talking about it but that doesn't mean a thing by itself.
The part of my post about reaching critical mass was probably more relevant. Only time will tell that. I'll certainly not be holding my breath, but I'll be watching. I've seen a number of such schemes come and mostly go.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .
FWIW, the DAWs and similar I use are Reaper, Mixbus(cf Ardour), occasionally QTracktor or Renoise. Of those Reaper and QTractor support CLAP and Mixbus/Ardour likely will fairly soon as Ardour is OpenSource. I've also tried but don't use BitWig, which also supports CLAP.
What's common about all of those is that they're available Linux native, as well as on Windows and Mac.
I happened upon this very apposite cartoon, which may amuse:
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .
Having worked on a few standards I have some experience of it and yes, it's far too often true, despite our best efforts.
I have worked on some that have worked out well, but vested interests, inertia, resource pressures, and the inevitable "but we still have to support the old kit" can make it tough.
One of the most curious things, though, is the Internet, where there are few if any 'standards', but most things work out fine. That's probably because the "request for comment" philosophy means people do comment and the conventions get adjusted and tuned properly. I still struggle to comprehend IPv6, though :-D
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