Actually, the Armstrong has better tone than the Selmer.
Plus, I've had the Selmer so many years now, the silver plating is coming off.
The nastiest looking instruments get played in the salt spray. Except for the guitar, since I only have one good one.
I'm on the other side of the dune from the ocean. The venue is covered with a canvas cover, and we are on the east end with the dune to our back. On windy days, the salt covers everything.
We do this 3 days a week, and the owner keeps us all summer, even though the business is not very good that time of the year. His philosophy is that if he wants great entertainment in the winter tourist season, he needs to keep them all summer when it's slow. He does that with the cooks, bartenders and wait staff, too.
So if the instruments turn to rust, they are paid for.
I bought a used sax for this purpose. I got the used Armstrong to play outdoors, but since it has better tone than the Selmer flute, I decided to make it the indoor flute.
We also play twice a month at a huge, outdoor RV Resort. It's outdoors too, but about 3 miles west of the ocean, so there is no salt spray. But I use the outdoor instruments anyway.
Playing in a place like this, Caig DeOxit Red and Caig DeOxit Gold are staples of life. They keep the connections working, but not the finish on the instruments.
The picture is at low tide, you can see how high the water comes by the change of sand color.
Thanks for the explanation. I’m surprised the Armstrong sounds better than the Selmer but now your choice makes sense. Actually I’ve never played a Selmer flute so it was just an assumption based on saxes. I had a Mark V tenor. And I’m very familiar with the Atlantic coast from Ponte Vedra. It certainly adds a challenge for you.
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I traded it in for a Mark VII which in the shop sounded great. The problem was I play pop music, and I couldn't overblow the VII. It had nice tone, a little brighter than the VI which was good for rock and blues, but it had only one tone. So I went back to the shop on Monday to buy my old VI back, but they sold it already.
I traded the VII for a Couf Superba, and I liked that even better than the VI and the VII. The problem with that was it had a lot of copper in the brass, and shops don't relacquer anymore. It eventually turned green with a surface that had the texture of a cantaloupe skin.
A few more horns, and I got the MacSax. I did a custom job and had it plated with silver colored nickel. It's a Taiwan horn, and I found out from a couple of manufacturers, that other than ornaments, all the Taiwan horns are the same. The body and parts are farmed out to different factories, so the working parts are all interchangeable. MacSax only makes mouthpieces now.
The guy I had overhaul both flutes told me he has never been impressed with Selmer flutes, but he said mine was an exceptionally nice Selmer. He thought the Armstrong sounded better too.
I'm not really a flute player, just a doubler. I wouldn't take a gig playing nothing but flute. But I do a Jethro Tull tune, a Herbie Man tune, and a few others. It's fun to have that voice.
Ha; I'm a flute doubler at best, also. I see the quizzical looks when someone glances up and says, wait a minute - the trumpet player took that flute solo?
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I'm on the other side of the dune from the ocean. The venue is covered with a canvas cover, and we are on the east end with the dune to our back. On windy days, the salt covers everything.
Playing in a place like this, Caig DeOxit Red and Caig DeOxit Gold are staples of life. They keep the connections working, but not the finish on the instruments.
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Yep...everything at the ocean is going to be covered in the salt mist. Between the humidity, the wind, the sand, and the salt spray, that is one harsh environment.
Walking down the beach it looks like smoke/mist coming off the ocean.
One of the pickups on my SG... the bridge pickup, is missing all of it's chrome plating. Not from playing at the ocean, but from the salt in my sweat from countless nights on stage. We did, over the course of time, play several indoor nightclubs that were at the beach. They used huge fans for ventilation which pulled in the salt spray and the marsh mosquitos. Might as well have been outside. It was a case of wipe them down after the sets, and then go home and clean the guitars fully.
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Ha; I'm a flute doubler at best, also. I see the quizzical looks when someone glances up and says, wait a minute - the trumpet player took that flute solo?
My brother-in-law does that. He is both a great trumpet player and a great flute player. It's a rare combination. He plays flute better than I do. Sadly, there isn't a lot of work for trumpet players around here, so he teaches school too.
On stage in my current duo, I play tenor sax, flute, wind synth, and I sing. I get the "How many instruments DO you play?" Question a lot. It's good for show biz appeal.
I used to bring a keyboard and not the guitar, but as we started playing fewer standards and more rock, the guitar became more important. It has better stage appeal, too.
In bands, I've been in through the years, I learned from the other guys in the band to play bass, some keys, and rhythm guitar (barre chords only). I've also doubled on drums (my first instrument). Not every song has a sax part, so it was good to learn other instruments. In one band, the drummer was a good singer, so I'd get behind the kit for a few songs and let him get out front (the girls loved it).
It's show biz, so switching instruments gets people talking about you, and that generates more audience members, which means more gigs.
During the psychedelic years, I played bass, as nobody wanted to hire a sax player. I had a Fender P Bass and a used Ampeg amp. Heavy stuff to tote around and hang on your shoulder, but I was much younger then.
Playing notes on the bass taught me how to find my way around the fretboard, so in my 60s, when I decided to buy a guitar and learn lead, I progressed quickly.
I like playing different instruments, as they require different forms of expression. You don't play the instrument, you let the instrument play you.
I also like playing different genres of music for the same reason. It's all fun.
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Guitars Martin Acoustic Custom Built Tele Fender "Waylon Jennings" leather covered Tele Fender Acoustic Boss Katana 2x12 MK II Amp Johnson Mandolin
I have a lot more guitars but those are my "go too"
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Hah! I bet! I think I'll keep them where they are for now . . . my grandson (at 18 months) has already taken a liking to them LOL - Counting on him being MUCH better at this music thing then his old granddad
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THIS collector would still rather be playing but the physical ability left the building like Elvis. So now, like me in my younger days, all that matters is that they are pretty to look at.
Some days I just cant wait to see how you are going to fit in your flex and boast about how much you work and how rich and famous you are. You manage to do it on 4 of every 5 posts you make. (Even though nobody asks are cares.)
What HAS been lacking is your bragging about the expensive world destination vacations. You're slipping, ol' timer!!!
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