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May be a stupid question, but I haven't recorded my own playing into BIAB. What happens if I record a guitar part on a utility track along with a rhythm section track and then speed up the tempo? Does BIAB stretch the recording to still fit the groove? Would this be a productive way to do a Les Paul-style "play the solo at half speed and then double the tempo" kind of trickery? Would this kind of thing work in RB? How bad would the sound be in such an instance?

Am I right? Stupid question?

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Yes? No?


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Not a stupid question. Perhaps an idea that no one has tried.

Why not record an eight or sixteen bar "test" song and see what happens to your recording when the Band-in-a-Box tempo speeds up or slows down.

Also notice it's easy to change the song tempo by either clicking to the left of the existing tempo or on down and up arrows to the right of the tempo.

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For that my matter, what happens to recordings if the key is changed manually?

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Recording audio into Band-in-a-Box, the audio is an Artist Performance File. The audio will follow key changes and tempo changes.

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This sounds too good to be true. How is the sound quality? That description seems to say that I can have my playing on the tune, and BIAB will create a MIDI file to see the notes written out? Effectively transcribing my lines? Why wouldn't that be a bigger deal to sell the software?

If I change the tempo of my song to half tempo, play the solo, and then put the temp back to normal, my solo now sounds good at twice the original speed?

My assumption is that there has to be limitations to such a function, no?

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< That description seems to say that I can have my playing on the tune, and BIAB will create a MIDI file to see the notes written out? >
No, this isn't exactly correct.

BIAB will play your recording but the midi notes have to be manually input, BIAB doesn't create the midi. The data can be entered using notation, piano roll or copy and pasted from existing midi data. The midi data RealCharts from a RealTrack or SuperMidi Track can be used or a riff copied from a free midi file found on line. The midi can be sourced from anywhere. BIAB can generate midi from a monolithic audio recording but that's more complex and advanced than what we're discussing here.

Once the underlying midi has been added to your recorded track, your recording will play the same as a RealTrack with RealCharts. Viewers can see the notation, tab, guitar fretboard of your recording.

Your recorded audio can be transposed and time stretched by BIAB so it's possible to play your solo at half speed and the tempo will follow if you change the tempo back to normal but it may not sound good.

< Why wouldn't that be a bigger deal to sell the software? >
I agree this is a really big deal that doesn't get the attention it deserves.


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Originally Posted by Charlie Fogle
Recording audio into Band-in-a-Box, the audio is an Artist Performance File. The audio will follow key changes and tempo changes.
Correct.

Originally Posted by Funkifized
If I change the tempo of my song to half tempo, play the solo, and then put the temp back to normal, my solo now sounds good at twice the original speed?
"Good" is subjective. First, time and pitch stretching algorithms aren't perfect and typically sound best when they're closer to the original speed and pitch. Second, speeding up your playing will also speed up all of the nuances - for example, if you wiggle a note for vibrato at say 3hz it will suddenly be 6hz when sped up, which can sound unnatural.


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