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The original "Sophia Loves" didn't have as many chords as in the following 2 versions, so I deleted it a few months ago and the very different "V2" was renamed just "Sophia Loves", the remix posted here last December. Thus this instrumental, originally the "V3", has been retitled "Sophia Loves V2: Gnosis of Love". Now remixed it's still my favourite instrumental for relaxed listening, particularly at the end of a playlist when I'm totally in the zone for it. Drums: Country Rock Guitar Solo, Pop Ba ~ Brian Fullen Bass: ditto ~Tobin Frank Organ: ditto ~ Gene Rabbai Rhythm Guitar: ditto ~ Darin Favorite Piano: Solo Acoustic Piano Ballad ~ John Jarvis Tenor Sax Solo: Slow Country Pop w/ Tenor Solo ~ Mark Douthit Guitar Solo: Modern Groove Soloist, Brit Rock ~ Dave Cleveland 192 bars; 4/4; G; tempo 105; time 7:30
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Chay,
Another great instrumental and mix. You get some of the nicest organ sounds in your mixes. This one is excellent and really glues the overall track together. Also love the guitar solo.
Much enjoyed!
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Chay,
Another great instrumental and mix. You get some of the nicest organ sounds in your mixes. This one is excellent and really glues the overall track together. Also love the guitar solo.
Much enjoyed!
Bob Thanks, Bob! Yes, that guitar solo gets me every time I hear it as despite it's length and that it's a sample every part of it sounds deliberate. I struck super-lucky with that as it was the very first generation I tried and for me it's just 100% perfect for this instrumental. It's a key reason I love listening to this track at the end of a long playlist as I'm then totally in the zone for it.
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Chay, another winner
You mixing skills are second to none.
I really liked this version
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Nicely done again, Chay. Your ability to build an arrangement that sustains interest while supporting the theme really shines here. Very nice mix, too.
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Nicely done. Nothing wrong with the mix....it sounds good.
What I'd suggest, or maybe just something to think about, is condensing your projects down to under 4 minutes.... between 3 to 4 minutes. Without vocals, you really have to have interesting musical things going on to keep the listener interested. There's a lot of "space" in there that could be edited out to shorten it by half and still have a really nice instrumental. To me, the song really didn't start until about the 1:30 point when the really nice piano part started. You could have simply started with the piano after a very short.... 2 to 4 bars of intro....
Still good, but long.
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Chay,
Your songs are generally fairly long, and I don't have the time to listen all the way through as my time on the forums is extremely limited. But I listened to a little more than half of it. It's a great mix and a very pleasant sound. The organ is really nice. Enjoyed the piano, too. the sax was nice. That's where I had to click off in order to get to a few other listens. But I thoroughly enjoyed what I listened to. Very, very nice!
Alan
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Chay, another winner
You mixing skills are second to none.
I really liked this version Thanks, Mario, Appreciated.
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Nicely done again, Chay. Your ability to build an arrangement that sustains interest while supporting the theme really shines here. Very nice mix, too. So glad you like it, Ron. Thanks
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Nicely done. Nothing wrong with the mix....it sounds good.
What I'd suggest, or maybe just something to think about, is condensing your projects down to under 4 minutes.... between 3 to 4 minutes. Without vocals, you really have to have interesting musical things going on to keep the listener interested. There's a lot of "space" in there that could be edited out to shorten it by half and still have a really nice instrumental. To me, the song really didn't start until about the 1:30 point when the really nice piano part started. You could have simply started with the piano after a very short.... 2 to 4 bars of intro....
Still good, but long. Thanks for the response Guitarhacker, but your 2nd paragraph is really down to personal taste and artistic preference. Primarily I'm creating music for myself and then for close friends and family, plus I have nothing on sale, so I'm not after getting radio plays or whatever, so I'm generally not interested in keeping most if not everything short. I think it's Spotify sales persons who advise cutting out any creative intros and make everything start with a bang and keep it banging! I also prefer to listen to longer tracks, be they songs or instrumentals. Out of so far only 2 songs and over 30 instrumentals I've composed with BiaB, only 3 are under 4 minutes and 5:30ish is probably my average track time. Re your writing "Without vocals, you really have to have interesting musical things going on to keep the listener interested", firstly it really depends on the formula of a given piece - how it's structured and what the musician intends - so while in others of my shorter instrumentals there are a few solos (3-6), each one designed to build the dynamics (there are 4 in the much shorter "Aya Rocks" which you recently commented on), this piece and the equally long and simpler first version, just titled "Sophia Loves", are intended to slowly build as the track progresses. In "Sophia Loves" there's only one solo instrument, in this "V2" only 2, but shortening either piece by 25% or 33% - or even 50% - wouldn't make them better as the dynamics would be changed. Secondly, there are a few predominantly instrumental composers who post on this forum and while their tracks are mostly 3-4 minutes in length very often there's either only one key solo instrument or one which is given a break by a very short 2nd one somewhere in the middle; ie: they're not dynamically eventful, but I don't criticise them because they're how the composer intended them to be. Some are very atmospheric and some would make great soundtrack pieces, while others I just find flatline - though sometimes you just have to be in the right zone to appreciated them. As said, it ultimately comes down to personal artistic preference. I recall some time ago discussing this subject and regardless of genre it's all too easy to criticise a work based on personal preference. An example I gave before: if I was to create a piece like BS&T's "Blues Part II" I'm sure someone would write that I should have completely cut the opening organ solo. If I did something like Santana's live version of "Europa" from the "Moonflower" album someone would say I should have cut out the last 25% and let it fade out as it's too long by that point. I could give oodles of such possible examples. The above post is as I wrote in the blurb, "still my favourite instrumental for relaxed listening, particularly at the end of a playlist when I'm totally in the zone for it." It may not be as accomplished an arrangement and mix as my "Quan Yin" or the strings based "Deya Flows [BaRock]" (on my "Deya Flows" video), plus it's not as 'catchy' as many of my shorter pieces, but it's still my favourite to listen to when I'm in the zone for it. I wouldn't change anything about it at all.
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#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
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Chay,
Your songs are generally fairly long, and I don't have the time to listen all the way through as my time on the forums is extremely limited. But I listened to a little more than half of it. It's a great mix and a very pleasant sound. The organ is really nice. Enjoyed the piano, too. the sax was nice. That's where I had to click off in order to get to a few other listens. But I thoroughly enjoyed what I listened to. Very, very nice!
Alan Thanks for taking the time to listen to what you did, Alan. Sending good vibes out to your beloved womanifestation of the divine feminine.
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#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
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Hi, Chay.
It's a nice track.
And you're right - the only complete version of BS&T's "Blues Part II" on YouTube appears to be a vinyl rip, with all the other versions trimmed down.
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You are the master of these magical musical moments and you always make engaging videos, too. This one came up on YT notifications the other day, and I see the comment on left there then was never posted. Seems I do that more these days. Write the comment but forget to push Post. I blame the music you make rather than the obvious old-man issue. I really enjoy how you exchange soloists, each one such a treat to the ears.
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Hello Chay,
In a way it's a good thing your 'Sophia' song lasts so long, because it's a very nice, relaxing song, makes you feel at ease.
Although a lot of things happen in between, the organ, the sax, the lead guitar, etc. But they all fit in very nice and still make you feel relaxed listening to it!
Yeah, I really enjoyed this instrumental.
But... sometimes you want to hear someone sing on the song. I guess I crave that, because I love singing.
Can my 'request' be a challenge for you, Chay?
Hans
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Hi, Chay.
It's a nice track.
And you're right - the only complete version of BS&T's "Blues Part II" on YouTube appears to be a vinyl rip, with all the other versions trimmed down. Thanks for the listen and comment, David. I can't say I'm surprised re "Blues Part II" on YouTube, but it is disappointing that persons would do that.
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#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
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You are the master of these magical musical moments and you always make engaging videos, too. This one came up on YT notifications the other day, and I see the comment on left there then was never posted. Seems I do that more these days. Write the comment but forget to push Post. I blame the music you make rather than the obvious old-man issue. I really enjoy how you exchange soloists, each one such a treat to the ears. Thanks, Marty! I've written comments in this forum and forgotten to press 'post reply'. I don't know if anyone noticed it, but the sax solo ends a beat short of the bar and the guitar finishes the phrase. When I ended the sax on the right beat the transition didn't work, whereas it's perfect being just wrong! 
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
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Hello Chay,
In a way it's a good thing your 'Sophia' song lasts so long, because it's a very nice, relaxing song, makes you feel at ease.
Although a lot of things happen in between, the organ, the sax, the lead guitar, etc. But they all fit in very nice and still make you feel relaxed listening to it!
Yeah, I really enjoyed this instrumental.
But... sometimes you want to hear someone sing on the song. I guess I crave that, because I love singing.
Can my 'request' be a challenge for you, Chay?
Hans Thanks, Hans! I have 4 to be sung songs already planned - I already have the music tracks sorted - and if I ever get the opportunity record vocals I'll be doing them. See my reply to Beth on your "That Flame" thread as she'd be perfect for a new song I've written called "Flying Forties" with a big band backing. My problem is that I now live in a retirement flat which is only separated from my older neighbour's flat by thin plasterboard walls, so only on the very rare occasion she's out and I'm free do I ever have the opportunity to play guitar or sing. All music I listen to, plus also watching TV, I have to use headphones.
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
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