Hi Everyone, I have posted several times in years past. I have always respected the uniqueness and (for the most part) ease of use of Band in a Box. I have certainly touted it's features to my friends and fellow musicians. In the age of very sophisticated DAW's, I believe that the ability to create music in the unique way that BiaB allows is unmatched. That said, the price of the upgrade from an older version like mine (2019) something that I have to come to terms with. Yes, I have spent a lot of $ on Studio One, Melodyne, Native Instruments, gear, guitars, blah, etc. What does the latest version of Band in a Box have to offer in the scope and integration with the modern recording/production platforms available today? I am not a pro. Just a long time musician seeking advice from this outstanding community. Todd
Whole PGM content library (RT's, RD's, MIDI, Styles, Songs, etc.) had been consolidated into single non-modal tabbed librarian. You can try out items in near real time without opening and closing picker dialogs.
"What does the latest version of Band in a Box have to offer in the scope and integration with the modern recording/production platforms available today?"
Well, this question could have many answers. For one, unlike AI stuff that is likely stolen from copyrighted sources and to my understanding can't be copyrighted, BIAB offers ethical way of writing tunes, as PGM musicians were paid for their work... To try to answer your question more directly, in my opinion, a combination of a new Track View and Partial regeneration are the strongest combo of features in the past few years. You have significantly more control over tracks now.
I'm someone who always uses far more than the usual 5 instruments, so the ability to use the Utility tracks in the same way as ‘normal’ tracks (via the F5 shortcut) is the biggest improvement for me.
If the price of the update is an issue for you and you're NOT in a hurry, just post your songs regularly in the Showcase forum (and participate there in general) and chances are you'll end up in this year's "Showcase Awards" and get the latest version for free. PG Music is very generous in this regard!
< What does the latest version of Band in a Box have to offer in the scope and integration with the modern recording/production platforms available today? >
High quality integration, that's pro-level quality, with all of the " Studio One, Melodyne, Native Instruments, gear, guitars, blah, etc." you've accumalated.
By 'pro-level quality', meaning today, BIAB backing tracks are broadcast and streamed world-wide on every main-stream streaming service like Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Deezer, Spotify, Pandora, and Soundcloud. I've no doubt we've also heard BIAB backing tracks tucked into major, mainstream commercial releases from major artists. The quality is there which makes me think it's been at least, experimented with.
As a long time musician but not at a pro level, BIAB addresses this three ways.
. It provides you studio quality audio recordings performed by real session musicians playing real instruments over any chord progression, at any tempo, in any key for instruments you cannot play.
. It provides you studio quality audio recordings performed by real session musicians playing real instruments over any chord progression, at any tempo, in any key for instruments you can play, when BIAB's product is better than you can play.
. It provides you studio quality audio recordings performed by real session musicians playing real instruments over any chord progression, at any tempo, in any key for instruments you can play, but is useful in times it's inconvenient for you to play.
BIAB's RealTrack content is a pristine data base for thousands of instruments with hundreds of hours of isolated audio for samples and loop creation.
If you're a music teacher; BIAB 2025 makes it easier than ever to create tutorials, practice tracks and to include transcription and notation for students to practice over.
This includes using BIAB to speed up, slow down, change key signatures, loop and to also use features such creating multiple SGU playlists on the fly, view the guitar fretboard fingering the notes and chords.
Students self-teaching can use these tools also.
To get an idea of the value of BIAB 2025 for 'serious' recordings. Serious teaching aids and a seriously high level of arrangement and creative self-contained, complex productions, Check out BIAB's Artist Performance sets on their main page.
You're a guitarist, so I recommend Artist Performance #4, Brent Mason and I posted a screenshot of PG Music's description of the set.
Everything that PG Music describes, all the tools and features are included in BIAB for a user to create their own Artist Performance Sets just like what you'll see in Brent's and all the others Artist Performance sets.
You don't have to create an entire Performance Set, this can also be done at the track level. With 2025 BIAB for Windows that includes a Stem Splitter; In conjunction with the updated Audio Chord Wizard, original as well as commercial recordings can now be imported, synced and aligned with the BIAB Chord Sheet to use with a BIAB project.
It's now possible to practice or learn a piece from the original recording from a hit song from 1967 and have notation and tab, transcription and see the notes on the Guitar fretboard.
If I read the original post correctly, Todd has BIAB 2019 and knows what that does. He just doesn’t know about the changes in the program since then. In other words, he doesn’t know what it is he doesn’t know.
Utility Tracks, correctly mentioned above by BD Thomas, are what I meant by ‘more tracks’. We are no longer limited to the legacy tracks of bass, piano, guitar, drums on one track only, etc.
I should add Drum Stems to the list. There are starting to be some drums where you now have control over individual parts of the drum kit, each in its own track.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
With an UltraPak version of. BIAB and just about any major brand of DAW you can create professional level, performance quality backing tracks. If you wish to record an album (excuse my age) using nothing but You and your instrument and a kickass backing band in a million (maybe more) genre’s you can.
With only a decent DAW and BIAB. I use Logic so I don’t even use DAW mastering plug ins anymore.
Think about what you’re trying to do and we can help dial it in a little for you.
I too have paid a lot of $$$ to Native instruments for sound libraries. Do I use them?? ALMOST NEVER !!! Truth is the Real Tracks included with BIAB get most of my backing track work so I rarely use midi any more. I realize midi gives you utmost control over every nanosecond of every track. Truth is, I don’t need that. I want my bass player to outline the chords and the drummer to keep it all honest. A few other instruments and I’m done. If I have Ron Carter playing an upright over a set of changes, my bass player is probably not the problem…. Ron’s right there, tuned up and ready to go, whenever I think he fits the bill.
That’s me. Others do other things. It’s because they are others. They have not yet learned my way is the path to total musical and spiritual enlightenment. Yea, hardly.
I’m sure if you outline some of your objectives you’ll get straight answers on how to do what you’re after. BIAB is a complex pile of code. It does many things for many people. In many ways. But never at the same time or Location…. Heisenberg.
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Well, this is incredible! It has been a long while since I posted here and (I'm not surprised) that this community is always willing to help and not bash because some breach of etiquette in the location of the post. I felt it important to address all of the excellent responses to my post in the same reply. I want to call out each of you though. Matt, I know you have been around here for a long time and I have learned much from your guidance to so many in this community. Same with Charlie Fogle (thanks for the attachment! I love Brent) and mrgeeze. Rusty and BD, nice to meet you. That said, upgrading is a no-brainer for me now. I am a worship band player. I have used Band in a Box to create chord progression snippets to practice improvised solos over (although I usually get replaced by our younger guitar hotshots!, oh well). I do also use BIAB to create tracks for my song ideas. And I love the BIAB plugin that I use with Studio One. Port the tracks over and then I can use my Presonus recording gear to complete the song. For separation stems (legally) I use Moises. I purchase the songs from Itunes. I have made many backing tracks using Moises that my singing partner from church and I use when she and I do acoustic sets for hospice patients and nursing facility residents. I know that you can record songs with Audacity and bounce to MP3 but I am opposed to that. Sorry to be lengthy but I wanted to do justice in responding the the thoughtful replies.
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
Playable RealTracks Set 4
RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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