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I’ve been a long-time user of Band-in-a-Box and really appreciate what the software offers. However, I want to raise a serious concern about the current state of its audio chord detection.
For the same song, I tested multiple online tools — Chordify, ChordU, and Moises — and all of them gave accurate chords. BIAB, on the other hand, consistently produces incorrect results. Even more telling: I exported the correct chords from Chordify as a MIDI file, then imported that MIDI into BIAB. Still, BIAB generated completely wrong chord data. This, to me, highlights a core issue with the detection engine.
This isn't just a technical flaw — it's a missed opportunity. If BIAB had reliable chord detection, it would unlock the full power of its other features, making it an unbeatable songwriting and arranging tool. Right now, it feels like a brilliant product held back by one outdated system.
I hope PG Music takes this seriously. BIAB deserves better.
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I've noticed that programs (and apps) tend to leapfrog each other in their ability to do this. I agree, now it's PG Music's turn to make a jump. One serious limitation is that, unless it just improved, it only supports two chords per measure.
Studio One 7 Pro gets some chords, and on my iPhone, I use Chord AI. Song Master Pro also does OK and attempts to define song sections. None of them get all the upper extensions correct on the genre I write, Brazilian jazz, but they get me closer. I'll have to try the second and third ones you cited.
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With so many alternative software products (local apps and online) available to the user, if a software company wants to be on top of their competitors it ought to be quite easy to set up some comparison tests for some functions and check the outcome, and if needed fix the problems to come out on top (to be a candidate for the users first choice).
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+1 to better chord detection.
heres what i would like to see...
a AI module in bb/rb that has several features that could be turned on and off by the user such as..eg a user utility.
examples of features might be...
1..chord detection of course improved.
2..6 part stem splitter...or at least mirror what the very best stem splitters do.
(a lot of sp's are based on public domain code i believe ?)
3..what i might term a 'make my created song final master radio ready'.
ie improve the master to help new people that cant afford a commercial
product used by big studios ?
4..a number of features for tracks split from a master...
eg cutting down sibilance and noise and generally improving the split track and its audio before adding pg content to the song.
5..an improved way of syncing new pg session musos to an existing master. it seems from posts that new users are struggling with this ?
eg just grab a track and slide it like one can do in rb and various daws ?
and i know ive missed something...but i think the general gist is there.
the whole AIM being to attract new users to pg that might not have a lot of money ? and thus save them haveing to buy third party add ons ?
just some ideas/blue skying it.
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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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jmorgan,
Why do you use the subject heading there is an "Urgent need to improve Chord Detection in BIAB"? There will almost always be a program that can perform a specific function better than another program that can perform the same function. That's true of Band-in-a-Box as well as the other programs you named. If you know of a program that performs a function better than Band-in-a-Box, use that program to perform the function. As long as one or more programs you use can perform a function to your satisfaction I don't understand the urgent need; the work you want to do still gets done.
At the same time there have been numerous threads to let other forum members know program "X" performs function "Y" better than Band-in-a-Box. Many times the threads detail how and why this conclusion was reached. Those are great threads for other forum members to keep up with advances in technology. Sometimes a program will not be well known so explanations with links to a program's website is very helpful about alerting people to programs they do not use or are not familiar with.
From your thread subject heading, I thought the chord detection function in Band-in-a-Box was seriously broke! I'm glad that's not true.
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I think the key term in the original post is ‘missed opportunity’ and I concur. When I think of what a typical person might use BIAB for, one use is to create an accompaniment track based on a popular song they may know, and then perhaps experiment with new tempos and keys. That makes sense to me as being one of the core functions of BIAB.
Now, what about how well it does that? Some of us here may have other skills and needs and a good command of available tools. I suppose my guideline would be, if BIAB chooses to include a particular function, it should perform that function in a way that is competitive with other programs. There has long been an opinion here by some who feel BIAB should stick to what it can uniquely do, and if it is going to include other functions, it should do them well. Topics in this category could include being a DAW, audio editing, offering stem splitting, or video functions. Are they nice to have, and convenient? Sure. Are they urgent? In my opinion, no. But if BIAB does these things, the performance needs to be competitive.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
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Now, what about how well it does that? Some of us here may have other skills and needs and a good command of available tools. I suppose my guideline would be, if BIAB chooses to include a particular function, it should perform that function in a way that is competitive with other programs. There has long been an opinion here by some who feel BIAB should stick to what it can uniquely do, and if it is going to include other functions, it should do them well. Topics in this category could include being a DAW, audio editing, offering stem splitting, or video functions. Are they nice to have, and convenient? Sure. Are they urgent? In my opinion, no. But if BIAB does these things, the performance needs to be competitive. I agree.
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
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-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
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- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
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- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
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Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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