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Biab 2015 on Win 10. Is there a FREE vocal remover software available that does a decent job removing vocals from popular songs?

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Biab 2015 on Win 10. Is there a FREE vocal remover software available that does a decent job removing vocals from popular songs?
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Biab 2015 on Win 10. Is there a FREE vocal remover software available that does a decent job removing vocals from popular songs?
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Yes, https://studio.moises.ai/login/?redirect=/library/

The free version offers limited features, including 5 AI audio separations per month but, if that's all you need, why not? Anyway, you can find out how good it is for free, Moises plans and billing

Fadr, likewise, has free and paid plans.

Most stem separators are built from Spleeter, an open-sourced freeware platform. The downside is that you must write your own GUI.

Stagecraft Software is shareware in that you can download and use their tools for free but they would like you to pay within 30 days — Holy 1986! In any case, no monthlies or subscription involved and everything is done in the box (your Mac or PC) with no usage limits. Here's a link to their Spleeter based Simple Stems for $20. I use this on occasion.

I haven't found any stem separator to be as good as advertised and I own quite a few including high priced products from iZotope and Yamaha/Steinberg.


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As Mike pointed out.... None of them are as good as advertised. Whether you want to remove it or extract it, there's always artifacts in the end product.

All the ones mentioned are relatively decent with the job they do.


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I haven't tried any vocal remover software in decades.

When I did, they relied on removing where, in the stereo mix, the vocals were panned. This took out the vocals, but also everything else in that niche.

I don't know if they still use that, or something new. If something new, I'd be curious about the method, but I no longer have a desire to do that.

Some of our duo competitors use karaoke tracks, which are relatively faithful to the recording.

The problem with that, would also be the problem for vocal removal. They are mixed for listening to a recording, not for live performance.

Thankfully, as a multi-instrumentalist, I can make my own backing tracks. I can exaggerate parts of the rhythm track that live musicians do (often the backbeat), exaggerate the groove, put backing vocals on synth voices so they are there but not obviously karaoke, and so on. I can also change the arrangement, get rid of long intros, real endings instead of fade outs, leave room for a solo hog (that would be me), get to the hook sooner, lengthen songs that the dancers would appreciate and so forth.

But if I simply wanted to remove vocals, I'd probably go the karaoke route.

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But if I simply wanted to remove vocals, I'd probably go the karaoke route.

Yep. This will most likely get you a much cleaner version. assuming it's a well done version.

Or.... you could build your own version with Band in a Box.


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Answering Notes, I’m familiar with those early attempts and yes, they worked to some degree by panning to create the necessary phasing that would cancel out a voice or specific instrument. Yes, that did terrible damage to the quality of the resulting audio. So I would have to say the new algorithms bear no resemblance to that. You really can almost get away with unbaking the cake.


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But if I simply wanted to remove vocals, I'd probably go the karaoke route.

Or.... you could build your own version with Band in a Box.

A surprisingly practical solution.

I bought BIAB so that I could create vanity tracks for customers at a far lower cost than generating them from notation apps or DAWs or buying karaoke tracks. BIAB is a great tool for this. I even used it for a track on my latest album.

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Answering Notes, I’m familiar with those early attempts and yes, they worked to some degree by panning to create the necessary phasing that would cancel out a voice or specific instrument. Yes, that did terrible damage to the quality of the resulting audio. So I would have to say the new algorithms bear no resemblance to that. You really can almost get away with unbaking the cake.

Almost, especially with modern pop tunes. I don't avoid this genre but it has kind of avoided me in the 21st C.


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Depending on how often you're going to use a stem splitter, it might be worth just upgrading BiaB to 2025. You don't need to buy an expensive upgrade - get the Pro version upgrade for $79 and then just install the program. It will work with all the realtracks etc. from whatever level you already have. I've been using the stem splitter in Realband 2025 and it works really well - way better than anything else I've tried.

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Biab 2015 on Win 10. Is there a FREE vocal remover software available that does a decent job removing vocals from popular songs?
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Yes, https://studio.moises.ai/login/?redirect=/library/

Another real good free one is The Ultimate Vocal Remover:

https://ultimatevocalremover.com/


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Audacity also has a free stem splitter (for windows). Need to download OpenVino AI plugin and then enable it in Audacity.
I don't know how well it works I have only tested it with some sample files. Option to select 2 stems (vocal, rest) or 4 stems (vocal, bass, drums, rest).

It is easy to check out since it is free.

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<...snip...>. So I would have to say the new algorithms bear no resemblance to that. You really can almost get away with unbaking the cake.

Thanks. That's good to know.

If I ever have the need, I know the results will be better.


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I've found out that the drums can be extracted extremely well from a mix. Following that, the bass tends to extract good enough for government work. Both of those are generally in a section of the spectrum without a lot of overlapping other instruments.
Vocals are OK in most cases as long as you're not looking for a pristine track.

I've tested most of the major players in the stem extraction game and some are better than others but none of them are at the point that I can take those extracted stems and use them in a professional mix. I end up in most cases, trying to hide the defects and deficiencies in the mix, which of course, results in a subpar mix.

I have no doubt that at some point in the future, AI will be able to "unbake the cake" as has been mentioned. We're not quite there yet.


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I've found out that the drums can be extracted extremely well from a mix. Following that, the bass tends to extract good enough for government work. Both of those are generally in a section of the spectrum without a lot of overlapping other instruments.
Vocals are OK in most cases as long as you're not looking for a pristine track.
If anyone knows a way to remove a tambourine from a mix, that person will be my hero. I've tried every stem splitter I know, dynamic filters, fixed and dynamic eq, filtering plug–ins that "learn" the noise etc. Nada.

Some people should never be allowed near a tambourine.


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Originally Posted by Mike Halloran
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Some people should never be allowed near a tambourine.

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I am almost ready to upgrade Biab, so I will wait to use that. I need the upgraded version anyways, soon I hope.

Thanks for the info and time y'all spent replying to me. It doesn't go unnoticed. I'm hoping tp upgrade within the next couple of weeks.

Btw, some advertise as free but then they want you to d/l their software, which is not free.

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Originally Posted by Mike Halloran
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If anyone knows a way to remove a tambourine from a mix, that person will be my hero. <...>
I remember the tambourine days, when just about every song had to have one.

Being the sax player in the band, I often got that job. The drummer had one attached to his hi-hat, too.

Thankfully, those days have faded, and it can now be used only when it's appropriate.

How to remove it is something I can't help you with. Good luck.


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Speaking of HIGH velocities in a song mix, one of my favorite male artists also gets up there with his amazing vocals. He sings higher than Steve Perry believe it or not, Peter Cetera, Barry Gibb were some of the people he emulated while writing his music in the late 70's.

The difference was he sang the songs in full voice, not falsetto. That is what grabbed my attention one day listening to a cassette of his at some hole in the wall bible book store in the mid 80's.

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Speaking of HIGH velocities in a song mix, one of my favorite male artists also gets up there with his amazing vocals. He sings higher than Steve Perry believe it or not, Peter Cetera,
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Originally Posted by Mike Halloran

If anyone knows a way to remove a tambourine from a mix, that person will be my hero. I've tried every stem splitter I know, dynamic filters, fixed and dynamic eq, filtering plug–ins that "learn" the noise etc. Nada.

Some people should never be allowed near a tambourine.

DrDan to the rescue. He was able to isolate the tambourine well enough—I'd forgotten that it was my only percussion and the tool he used sent it to Drums—then sent me the resulting stems.

Mixing the remaining stems made the mandolin sound weird. So I took Drums, inverted the polarity, then brought it up to a level where it cancelled the tambourine in my mix. It wasn't 100% but I didn't need that as I had a better tambourine track that masked any artifacts.

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