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Hi, I think I have asked this before but not remember the solution.
I've done it before but right now when I try to save a midi track to type "0" (one track" saves it back to type "1" (multitrack).
I don't want that, that way I just assign an instrument and that's it, don't have to deal with several tracks.
Not sure what's happening here, but, like I said, I've done it quite a lot.
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Does this workflow give the correct result ?

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If Audiotrack's suggestion does not give the result you expect, can you clarify whether you mean multiple tracks or multiple channels?

Type 0 MIDI files have only one track, which can have up to 16 channels.

Type 1 MIDI files can have multiple tracks, each with up to 16 channels.


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Hi, Audio, I have not follow the same path to save it, but I use the "save midi file" with no the result I want.
Simon, I'm referring to the midi type 0, just one track. For instance, in my case, if saved as type 1, which seem to be doing by default regardless of my choice, a guitar midi saves it as a multiple track, in other words, a track for each string, that's why I never did that. Just saved it as a type "0" and used a guitar vst, and that was good.
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Also, I didn't have to save the whole song as a file, just an specific instrument, which is what happens doing it the way Video suggested.
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Hi Mike,

One way to find the "write guitar strings to 6 channels" option is through "Save As". If you follow the numbers on the attached image, it is possible to disable this option.

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Saving as a type 1 MIDI file should be the default. Why? You can turn a type 1 into a type 0, but you can't always restore the type 0 back to the same type 1.

So the best way to control what you are saving, is to use the Save As command, if Save or Ctrl+S doesn't give you a choice in the app you are using.


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Saving as a type 1 MIDI file should be the default.
I'm pretty sure it is.


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Yes, type "1" is the default, but I used to change that to "0" when need it. I tried all the above recommendations but no joy. Appreciate your help.
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Mike, here is a shot in the dark for you to try if you already haven't done so.

Try the return to factory settings/most first. If that doesn't work try the factory settings/all setting. Most of the time here if BiaB isn't working like it should and need a good spanking wink the most setting gets it to mind. YMMV


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I suspect there are still uses for a type 0, but I don't know what they are.

Back in the day when I was feeding 3.25" floppy disks into one of two on stage, hardware, MIDI file players type 0 was practical.

Back then, computers were too undependable to bring on stage, so it was two MIDI file players (Roland Sound Brush) and a rack of MIDI modules. Two so I could go from song to song instantly, and a spare in case one crapped out.

I always kept a type 1 copy on my home computer. I keep one file in the sequencer/DAW's native language, and another in Type 1 MIDI - just in case.



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Originally Posted by cubanpete
Yes, type "1" is the default, but I used to change that to "0" when need it. I tried all the above recommendations but no joy. Appreciate your help.
Mike B.
Mike, can you let us know exactly what were the results when you tried both mine and Noel's suggestions? Did you receive a MIDI type 0 or 1 result?

What was the content, e.g. were there 16 channels on one track, or too many instruments etc?


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Just to join the conversation, Ihad to use type O files with my yamaha file player. but with regard to translating from type O to type 1 i'm pretty sure if you open type O in RB you get the choice to separate tracks like a type 1

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Ok, all the suggestions take me to the same box where one choose whether to use "1" (which is the default) or "0" which it should put all the parts on that instruments in the same track, in other words, you assign a vst and it sounds like it should, however, if you use type "1" in the case of a guitar midi, it would separate all the strings into separate track, so, one have to assign the same vst to each track so it would play the whole thing, otherwise, it takes longer to create the song, at least in my experience. I've been doing this the same way for years, that's why I'm puzzled about it.
I just did a try on a whole midi song which have an strumming jazz guitar and came in right into my DAW. Mostly occurs with a solo guitar.
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Originally Posted by cubanpete
Ok, all the suggestions take me to the same box where one choose whether to use "1" (which is the default) or "0" which it should put all the parts on that instruments in the same track, in other words, you assign a vst and it sounds like it should, however, if you use type "1" in the case of a guitar midi, it would separate all the strings into separate track, so, one have to assign the same vst to each track so it would play the whole thing, otherwise, it takes longer to create the song, at least in my experience. I've been doing this the same way for years, that's why I'm puzzled about it.
I just did a try on a whole midi song which have an strumming jazz guitar and came in right into my DAW. Mostly occurs with a solo guitar.
Appreciate again all your help.

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Mike, I'm still confused.
Re: "I just did a try on a whole midi song which have an strumming jazz guitar and came in right into my DAW."
What, exactly, did you try?
You mentioned above choosing both Type 1 and Type 0.
What, exactly, were the steps, options etc that you chose? What did you try? What menu options did you select?
"Just did a try" doesn't guarantee that we can interpret what was the try that you used.
More detail always is helpful. Can you clarify?


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This may have been mentioned since I’m coming late to the thread. There is a checkbox to separate the guitar strings into six channels. I could find it when I get to a computer, if you think it’s relevant.


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Since I got rid of the device that only played type 0 MIDI files, I have no use for type 0 anymore.

Type 1 is more versatile and allows me to do things that I can't do with 0.


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Mariaedison3 is right in quoting me. RB will separate typeO into separate tracks

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