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When trying to pick out a bass line when trying to learn to play it I find SongMaster Pro especially useful for analyzing Bass lines.

Although it can be done in various DAWs (eg Studio One Pro), I find SongMaster Pro really simplifies the process with its clarity and straight on work flow.

When playing the Bass stem solo in isolation from the Midi view it shows the bass line very clearly with timing and all the note names for all notes, quite helpful since the screen is adjustable for large midi notes and names etc (can cover the whole screen if necessary).

If some notes are missing in the midi it can be extracted from the pitch view and included in the midi view by adjustment of the midi sensitivity controls.

And the spectrogram view shows were it all sits in the spectrogram.

It is a very clear view, easy to follow and play along with or to write down in music notation.

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What is SMP? What DAW is SO?


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SongMaster Pro and Studio One Pro 7 (I have changed it in the post above).

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I am a big SMP fan! The developer just started a FB page which is interesting to see. https://www.facebook.com/groups/songmastercommunity
They just put up a video on this exact topic of Bass Midi Extraction. It is a bit older. I can only say it gets better with the newer version since they added Midi Chord block extraction.

When ever I hear a new Youtube audio I download it with free "4K youtube to MP3" and open it in SMP. There I immediately see tempo, time signature, tempo map, stems, chord sequence, block midi chords, song sections, midi, audio... printed charts, xml export, ... even the abily to export all the chords into BIAB with a cut and paste. grin

This is the starting point for may of the covers I like to sing over.

Just sayin

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Also just joined, Thanks.

(yes, my starting point for working with covers is exactly the same, very smooth)

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Thanks Dan! Just watched a few of the SMP videos, very interesting. I may have to look into this further and download the demo.

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Originally Posted by DrDan
I am a big SMP fan! The developer just started a FB page which is interesting to see. https://www.facebook.com/groups/songmastercommunity
They just put up a video on this exact topic of Bass Midi Extraction. It is a bit older. I can only say it gets better with the newer version since they added Midi Chord block extraction.

When ever I hear a new Youtube audio I download it with free "4K youtube to MP3" and open it in SMP. There I immediately see tempo, time signature, tempo map, stems, chord sequence, block midi chords, song sections, midi, audio... printed charts, xml export, ... even the abily to export all the chords into BIAB with a cut and paste. grin

This is the starting point for may of the covers I like to sing over.

Just sayin
Thanks for the heads-up on this app. The Personal permanent license fee of 18 € gets you a bunch of additional features, but I went with the Pro permanent license because it supports the higher quality audio (if it exists) I get with my YouTube Premium subscription. The Pro license is on a 25% sale for the next 4 days (from Sunday 27 July). I paid 43,20 €. 4K YouTube to MP3 licenses (Lite, Personal, Pro) I've been using SMP for years. This will be a nice addition to it.

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Glad to point folks in this direction. I stumbled upon this 4K Youtube, a year or two back. I had used several other options prior to this but it just seamed these would stop working or just became too complicated to keep working. Of couse you can use your DAW to record what you hear - but that is really not always very simple and I hate messing with my configurations for routine work to do something like this. I would be glad to spend a few bucks on this capability but the fact is the free version just does everything I have wanted to do with it. It tells me it will expire, but it never has. But I will go and take another look. And yes this is a perfect combo for SMP.


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4K youtube to MP3 is actually a subset of Filmora by Wondershare .

I've been using the free version for years and find it works quite well. I then open the videos in QuickTime to extract the audio in the lossless m4a format that I prefer to mp3 unless emailing files.


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… I may have to look into this further and download the demo.

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